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Outside/In

The Olive and the Pine

Outside/In

NHPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Nature, Science

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2020

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Planting a tree often becomes almost a shorthand for doing a good deed. But such an act is not always neutral. In some places, certain trees can become windows into history, tools of erasure, or symbols of resistance. Featuring Liat Berdugo, Irus Braverman, Jonathan Kuttab, Noga Kadman, Iyad Hadad, Raja Shehadeh, Rabbi Arik Ascherman, Miri Maoz-Ovadia, and Nidal Waleed Rabie and his granddaughter Samera. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

When Leot was maybe five or six years old, she planted a tree.

0:04.0

It was an outing with the whole family, her parents, her older sister, her baby brother.

0:09.0

She doesn't remember the day, but she's got the pictures.

0:12.0

In one of the photos I but she's got the pictures.

0:12.6

In one of the photos, I'm standing with all my family members.

0:16.4

It looks like we must have just planted trees.

0:18.8

My sister and I are holding, I don't know what you call that tool, maybe a spade or something to dig a hole in rocky soil,

0:28.0

and we're posing for the camera.

0:31.0

And the family has gathered around one of those young trees, a pine sapling. a

0:34.0

pine sapling,

0:35.0

dark green, bushy, maybe two feet tall,

0:38.0

right in the center of the photo.

0:40.0

I know, yeah, that photo is so funny. It looks looks it literally looks like I'm growing out of that

0:45.6

pinesappling like both of us are quite young and both of us seem to be like really enjoying the

0:50.9

strong Mediterranean sunlight.

0:54.1

And yeah, it looks like we're both sort of merged in that photograph.

0:59.5

Liot, Ljot Berduko, is a writer, curator, and assistant professor of art and architecture at the University of San Francisco.

1:07.0

And in an article published in January 2020 for Place's journal,

1:12.0

L'Ote actually brought a kind of artistic questioning to bear on her own

1:16.0

family pictures.

1:17.0

The pictures of the day when they planted the trees.

1:21.2

The picture definitely looks so rocky. I remember asking my dad after I saw the photo

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