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Even The Royals

The OG Tupac Part 1: Rebel Without a Pause | 92

Even The Royals

Wondery

Society & Culture

4.4844 Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

As an 18th century rich kid in Spanish-controlled Peru, Tupac Amaru II has it made. He’s descended from Incan royalty, the money and perks are flowing, and he’s set to inherit a powerful position working for the colonizers. But when he realizes that his privilege is built on the backs of his own people, Tupac decides it’s time for a change: if the system doesn’t work for everyone, then it doesn’t work for anyone. And if he can’t change it – then he’s ready to burn it all down.

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0:00.0

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0:04.1

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0:07.6

A quick note about our show.

0:09.2

We do a lot of research for our stories, but we also aren't your high school history class,

0:13.8

so some details and scenes are dramatized.

0:16.8

And be advised that today's episode contains some rebellious language.

0:26.9

So, Brooke, have you ever had one of those Hollywood moments where you stand up to a bully in front of a whole crowd?

0:35.4

Yep.

0:36.6

Or a bad boss? I feel like you have stood up to shitty bosses before. Actually, you know what? Yes, of course that. But there was a time in a moment in high school where I don't know that I'd call it a crowd per se, but it was the rest of the cheerleading squad. Oh, so a crowd. And a rambunctious one at that. Well, no, we were at practice. But I, like, got into it with our coach about something. I don't even remember what it was. So you were the bully? No. I sure was not. So, yeah, I mean, I guess that kind of counts. Okay, yeah. But, you know, I'm not afraid. Like, it takes a while for me to get to that point. But once I get there, I'm like, let's go. Watch out everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Well, today's royal didn't just stand up to a single baddie. He stood up to the whole Spanish government. He's the Inca revolutionary Tupac Amaru, the second.

1:31.1

Wow.

1:31.7

And yes, the rapper Tupac Shakur is named after him.

1:35.8

Oh, interesting.

1:36.9

Yeah, apparently Tupac, the rapper's mom admired Tupac Amaru's revolutionary spirit

1:42.5

and the way he inspired people all over the world to fight back.

1:46.4

So she honored him by naming her son after him.

1:49.3

That's fun.

1:50.1

It is fun. I had no idea.

1:51.8

I was named after a soap opera character, so.

1:53.9

So exact same story, really.

1:56.0

Same thing, yeah.

1:57.1

Uh-huh.

1:57.8

So Tupac, the Inca, grew up in the 1700s as an indigenous kid in what is now Peru.

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