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Hello and welcome to the History Extra podcast from BBC History Magazine, Britain's bestselling history magazine.

I'm Ellie Cawthorne. Recent months have been some of the toughest ever for the NHS.

Since its creation in 1948, Britain's National Health Service has undergone massive challenges and changes.

And its history is a fascinating one. For today's podcast, sub-editor Riannon Davies spoke to the historian Susan Cohen, whose latest book traces the history of the NHS,

to find out more about the service over the decades from the perspective of both healthcare workers

and patients. So, to kick things off, what was health

like in England before the NHS in terms of both the health of its people and the healthcare

that was on offer to them? Okay, so if we look at the state of the nation from about 1900s

onwards pre-Second World War,

the diseases you would associate with poverty,

poor living conditions and overcrowding were normal.

...