Goody, humans. Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas and au revoir, Monsieur Trudeau.

This weekend, Justin Trudeau ends his 12 years as the leader of the Liberal Party in Canada

and almost a decade as its prime minister. He said he was going to resign and this weekend is the weekend when

Liberal Party members will go to the polls and select his replacement. Who exactly is running to

replace him? What do they believe and how will they fare in a face off against the Canadian

conservatives which will subsequently take place? A lot of Canadians are frustrated and exhausted and exasperated that this political circus

and election malarkey is coming at precisely the moment when their closest ally and

neighbour, the United States, is launching an unprecedented trade war against them and they're all scratching

their heads sort of having to rethink and reevaluate their economic future and their strategic

future. It's an extraordinary time in Canada. So I wanted to understand it and see if it has any

lessons for all of the rest of us and understand the Canadian point of view on Donald Trump

and his tariffs and his trade war. Jen Gerson is the ideal person to speak to. She's an absolute

delight. She has written for the New York Times and the Washington Post and the economist.

She previously worked for the Toronto Star and the Globe and Mail on the National Post,

but now she is a

freelance writer and she has co-founded a substack called The Line, which is a Canadian commentary

website and podcast. It is fabulous. She is fabulous. I hope you enjoy as much as I did. The one

and only Jen Gersen.

I think it's a straightforward sigh of relief about the, what I would call, what we would call the Identitarian Politics or the woke left, the breaking of the hold of that kind

of cultural, the breaking of that, the hold of that whole cultural milieu on, for lack of term, elite thought

or intellectual thought. And there's a lot of emotional resonance that goes along with that. The

problem is that, of course, in a desire to let go of one illiberal impulse, these people are

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