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🗓️ 4 October 2025
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| 0:48.3 | You're listening to the 1A podcast. I'm Todd Zwillick, and this is the News Roundup. It's day three of the first government shutdown since 2019. The White House promised not a tough negotiation in the Senate or consequences in front of voters in an election, but pain for Democrats and government employees if a shutdown did come to pass in the form of firings and making Americans in Democratic-led states suffer. |
| 1:20.0 | Cutting vast numbers of people out, cutting things that they like, cutting programs that they like. |
| 1:24.5 | And President Trump asked Russell Vote, director of the U.S. Office of Management |
| 1:28.7 | and Budget, to execute on that vision. He can trim the budget to a level that you couldn't do |
| 1:34.7 | any other way. Now, so far, that's meant cutting billions in climate and infrastructure projects, |
| 1:39.9 | almost entirely in blue states and threatening thousands in federal workers with layoffs, |
| 1:45.4 | targeting what he calls falsely Democrat agencies. As for when all of this could end and what |
| 1:51.7 | other damage there will be along the way, let's get to all of it with our panel. Megan Scully is here, |
| 1:56.9 | Congress editor for Bloomberg News. Hi, Megan. Hi, thanks for having me. Karen. Tammalty is here, |
| 2:01.4 | Chief Political Correspondent for the Washington Post. Great to have you, Karen. It's wonderful to be here. And joining us, I think, for the first time on the roundup, Eric Bezail Emile, Emile, National Security Reporter at Politico. Eric, welcome to the table. Thank you for having me. Great to have you. |
| 2:15.7 | All right, Megan, let's start with the latest on the shutdown itself in the Senate. |
| 2:20.4 | We're going to get to all the table. Thank you for having me. Great to have you. All right, Megan, let's start with the latest on the shutdown itself in the Senate. We're going to get to all the threats and the firings. But inside Congress, where do negotiations stand right now that we'll determine when this whole thing ends? |
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