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The Run-Up

The New Terms of Abortion Politics

The Run-Up

The New York Times

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

The Dobbs decision upended political calculations on both sides of the abortion debate. Democrats used the issue as evidence of Republican extremism, and it cost the G.O.P. seats in the 2022 midterms. Now, with a presidential primary looming, abortion activists have an opportunity to reset their strategies for 2024 and roll out new litmus tests for their respective candidates. This week, Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America, and Alexis McGill Johnson, head of Planned Parenthood, on how they’re trying to reshape the abortion debate in the U.S.

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0:00.0

Recently, a mini-trauma has been playing out among key political insiders.

0:07.0

Nobody has ever done more for right to life than Donald Trump.

0:12.0

I put three Supreme Court justices who all voted.

0:16.0

On one side, Donald Trump.

0:18.0

Nobody thought they could win it.

0:20.0

You know, they won.

0:22.0

Roby Wade, they won.

0:24.0

On the other side, the anti-abortion movement, he helped deliver the end of throw.

0:29.0

It started after the midterms.

0:31.0

I was a little disappointed because I thought they could afford much harder during the election,

0:37.0

during the 22 election, because you know, they won.

0:39.0

And a lot of them didn't fight or weren't really around to fight.

0:42.0

And it did energize the Democrats.

0:45.0

When Trump placed some of the blame for Republican losses on abortion,

0:49.0

and on that anti-abortion movement.

0:51.0

A lot of the people that wanted and fought for years to get it.

0:54.0

And they sort of, uh,

0:56.0

other guys that were there protesting and doing what they could have done.

1:00.0

Then things ramped up.

1:02.0

The leading anti-abortion group blasted Donald Trump after his campaign said

1:07.0

he believed states should decide abortion laws.

1:11.0

Trump's position on the issue that it was now a matter of states' rights

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