Love or hate it, politics is an escapable part of our pro-life mission.

And I'm a big fan of the Brett Bartism where it said politics is downstream from culture.

Because I firmly believe that is true.

But culture change isn't the end-all be-all.

We need laws on our books that declare without shadow of a doubt that human

life is special and should be protected for all Americans, including pre-born Americans.

Hey, Prolet Jen. I'm Kristen Hawkins. Welcome to this very special episode of the explicitly pro-life podcast. My guest today, who will be joining me, Josh Craddock, knows quite a lot about

the ins and outs of abortion politics, abortion laws.

He is an affiliate scholar with the James Wilson Institute.

He graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School, where he served as the editor-in-chief

of the prestigious Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy.

He also co-founded the more prestigious Law Students for Life Group there.

Prior to law school, Josh

managed advocacy teams for nonprofit organizations at the United Nations, participated in negotiation

for sustainable development goals. I don't know what that is. His writing has appeared at many

steamed outlets. He is a true pro, and I have a lot of hard questions for him today.

Hey, Josh. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. You've got like all the stuff. So we're going to

dig into this. Ready to go. I'm so excited to have you. I've been wanting to have you on the show for a while.

I'm glad to be able to join you. It will make it work. One of the things I love about you is that you dream big.

A lot of times I'm sorry, I'm kind of biased against lawyers.

I wanted to be one until then I met a bunch of other pre-law students.

I was like, this isn't for me.

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