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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

The new fundamentals of the 2024 campaign

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

Government, Politics, News

4.41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 August 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

With the Democratic National Convention just days away, Doug Sosnik, a longtime Dem strategist best known for being a top adviser to Bill Clinton, joins the show to help unpack the new fundamentals of the 2024 presidential campaign. Sosnik and Playbook co-author Ryan Lizza discuss: Why the gender gap is getting larger — and how it could impact the election in ways that have not yet been fully appreciated; why JD Vance might influence the election more than Tim Walz; two metrics can tell you the most about the state-of-the-race; why Omaha, Nebraska might be the most important place in this presidential election; and why Sosnik thinks Kamala Harris has the potential to be like Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama.

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0:00.0

So as you might have noticed, a lot has changed in the presidential race in a very short amount of time.

0:07.0

With the Democratic Convention starting Monday in Chicago, I wanted to step back this week and unpack the new fundamentals of the 2024 race.

0:17.0

So I turned to an old friend of Playbook, Doug Sosmick.

0:21.0

Really what I want to know about is What's the race about?

0:24.0

You tell me what the race is about in terms of how it's being defined.

0:28.0

I'm going to tell you who's going to win the election.

0:31.0

Sosmick is a long-time strategist, best known for being a top advisor to Bill Clinton.

0:36.7

He's been in the private sector for years now, and for much of that time, he's been circulating

0:41.3

to friends and colleagues, semi-regular memos about the state of American politics.

0:47.0

Playbook has been featuring them for years, and recently the New York Times has been adapting them as guest essays as well,

0:54.4

including one this week.

0:56.0

You know, there are only three things I care about when I run a campaign.

0:59.0

I want to define what the election is about.

1:01.0

I want to define my candidate and I want to define my opponent.

1:06.1

So I was next memo is out today. You can find it LinkedIn Friday's playbook and it didn't

1:11.5

disappoint. I brought him onto the show and in our conversation we discussed

1:15.6

why the gender gap is getting larger and how it could impact the election in ways

1:20.8

that have not been fully appreciated, why JD Vance might

1:24.2

influence the election more than Tim Walls, which two metrics can tell you the most

1:29.3

about the state of the race. Why Omaha, Nebraska, might be the most important place in this

1:37.0

presidential election and why he thinks Kamla Harris has the potential to be like Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama.

1:47.0

I'm Ryan Liza and this is Playbook Deep Dive. dive. I think you're the first repeat guest we've ever had on this podcast so

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