The Neuroscience of Reducing Chronic Pain and Everyday Addictions | Eric Garland
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4.6 • 12.9K Ratings
🗓️ 9 March 2026
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Summary
Plus: How to "turn down the volume" on suffering, how to reframe your problems, and the clinical evidence for "stopping and smelling the roses."
Eric Garland, PhD, LCSW is Endowed Professor in Health Sciences at the Sanford Institute for Empathy and Compassion, Professor in the Department of Psychiatry and the Center for Addiction Science and Treatment at University of California San Diego (UCSD), and Director of UCSD ONEMIND (Optimized Neuroscience-Enhanced Mindfulness Intervention Design). Dr. Garland researches treatments for addiction and chronic pain, and is the developer of an innovative, mind-body therapy founded on insights derived from cognitive, affective, and neurobiological science, called Mindfulness-Oriented Recovery Enhancement (MORE).
In this episode we talk about:
- The three parts of his MORE protocol
- Simple practices for dealing with everyday addictions
- Mindfulness techniques for dealing with pain
- What pain actually is
- How to reframe negative thought patterns
- Practical tools for regaining a sense of joy in your life
- And much more
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Additional Resources:
- moretherapy.com
- Mindfulness-Oriented Recovery Enhancement: An Evidence-Based Treatment for Chronic Pain and Opioid Use
- Mindfulness-Oriented Recovery Enhancement for Addiction, Stress, and Pain
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| 0:00.0 | This is the 10% Happier Podcast. I'm Dan Harris. |
| 0:18.0 | Hello, everybody. How we doing? |
| 0:20.6 | Today we're going to talk about the neuroscience of reducing your everyday addictions like scrolling and shopping and gambling and drinking and eating. |
| 0:29.6 | Plus, we're going to talk about how to work with chronic pain, how to reframe your problems, and we're going to talk about the clinical evidence for stopping and smelling the roses. |
| 0:39.4 | This is a great interview. I really enjoyed this episode. My guest is a neuroscientist who's come up |
| 0:44.5 | with a protocol called Moore, which stands for mindfulness-oriented recovery enhancement. |
| 0:51.2 | This protocol, in my opinion, quite brilliantly weaves in aspects of mindfulness |
| 0:56.6 | with cognitive behavioral therapy and also has an emphasis on counter programming against |
| 1:03.0 | your evolutionarily wired negativity bias. This protocol, again, which is called Moore, |
| 1:08.9 | was originally designed for people with full-blown |
| 1:11.5 | addictions, but as you're about to hear, there are lots of extremely practical ways that |
| 1:16.2 | everyone can weave aspects of this practice into daily life. And the evidence strongly suggests |
| 1:21.7 | it will lead to an upgrade in the experience of being alive. My guest is Dr. Eric Garland, Ph.D. He's a professor in the |
| 1:30.2 | Department of Psychiatry at the University of California in San Diego. As mentioned, he developed |
| 1:35.5 | mindfulness-oriented recovery enhancement. He's also published more than 260 scientific |
| 1:40.7 | manuscripts and received more than $90 million in research grants. |
| 1:45.9 | If you're interested in practicing mindfulness yourself, may I remind you that I've got a |
| 1:50.6 | meditation app that you might want to check out and over on the app, between March 23rd and |
| 1:56.1 | March 27th, we're going to be running a five-day meditation challenge, which is inspired by a new |
| 2:01.4 | Audible original, an audio book that I recently put out, which is called Even You Can Meditate. |
| 2:07.2 | I co-wrote it and co-recorded it with the great meditation teacher and my close friend, |
| 2:12.2 | Seb and A Salasi. If you want to check out the book, you can go to audible.com. And if you want to |
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