The Negotiators is Back!

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🗓️ 28 September 2023

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Hey there I Spy listeners. Here at Foreign Policy, we’re dropping season 3 of our podcast, The Negotiators. On each episode, one former diplomat or troubleshooter tells the story of one dramatic negotiation. If the tagline sounds familiar, that's by design. We think of The Negotiators as the sister show of I Spy. We’re actually inserting the season 2 finale of The Negotiators into this feed because it’s especially I Spy like. It’s about a Texas rabbi who is taken hostage at his own synagogue—and ends up negotiating with his captor. Like the episodes of I Spy, this one is non-narrated. You'll hear our host, Jenn Williams, introduce the story, followed by nothing but rabbi Charlie Cytron-Walker. The show is a collaboration between Doha Debates and Foreign Policy. If you want to listen to season 3, find The Negotiators in your favorite podcast app. The first episode of the new season focuses on one of the most famous diplomatic negotiations ever: The Good Friday Agreement that ended decades of violence in Northern Ireland. Meantime—we're working on more episodes of I Spy, so keep watching this space. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Music
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0:34.0	From Doha debates and foreign policy, welcome to the negotiators. I'm Jen Williams.
0:44.0	This week, our last episode of the season, we're going to hear about a hostage negotiation with a twist.
0:51.0	Earlier this year, a British Pakistani man took several people hostage at a synagogue in Caliville, Texas.
0:58.0	He had one demand, the release of a Pakistani woman with alleged ties to al-Qaeda,
1:03.0	who's serving in 86-year sentence at a federal prison in nearby Fort Worth.
1:08.0	The hostages included Charlie Citron Walker, the rabbi of congregation Beth Israel.
1:14.0	As the standoff dragged on, FBI negotiators posted outside, tried to persuade the gunmen to come out quietly.
1:21.0	And we thought about featuring one of those FBI people on this episode.
1:26.0	Until we learned that another kind of negotiation had actually taken place inside the synagogue
1:33.0	between the rabbi and the hostage taker.
1:38.0	Rabbi Citron Walker was trying to get to know the man who was holding the gun on him.
1:43.0	That man's name was Malik Akram.
1:46.0	But the rabbi was also trying to humanize himself and the other members of the congregation.
1:53.0	Citron Walker told his story to our show's senior producer, Laura Rosproutellum.
1:58.0	We'll let Citron Walker take it from here.
2:04.0	It started off like a very common Saturday morning for me.
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