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That was Philippe Sands, talking about his investigation into a Nazi who disappeared. You're listening to the History Extra podcast from BBC History magazine

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Hello and welcome to the History Extra podcast.

I'm Rob Atar, the editor of BBC History magazine.

Next Monday, the 8th of October, a new series begins on BBC Radio 4, entitled Intrigue the Ratline.

In it, the barrister and author Philippe Sands explores the story of Otto Vector,

a senior Nazi official who went on the run after the end of the Second World War.

I paid a visit to BBC Broadcasting House a little while back

during the recording of the series,

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