Hey friends, welcome. So glad you're with me today. I know that you are fascinated by

stories of World War II. We all are our series, how women won World War II. One of the most

popular things we've ever done. That is why I think you're going to love today's conversation

with authors Brad Meltzer and Josh Mench who wrote the Nazi conspiracy. The secret plot

to kill Roosevelt, Stalin, and Churchill. And I absolutely love this conversation. I

loved talking with Brad and Josh. I think you're going to get so much out of this and I think

you're going to want to read the book when we're done. So let's dive in. I'm Sharon McMahon.

And here's where it gets interesting. I am really excited to be chatting about the

Nazi conspiracy. First of all, so many conspiracies, gentlemen. So many books about conspiracies.

Yes, you're talking to two very paranoid people right now. That's really. But Dave, you know,

what the thing about these conspiracies though is I do think conspiracies is kind of a bad term

these days. You know, conspiracies used to be, and I will say I despise it. I despise that what

used to be a way for us to look at, you know, and question things has become a really disgusting

how people will use our politics today to say any outlanders thing they want to make

up about the opposing side, whatever your politics are. And then because they have an

internet connection, say that it's fat. And when we talk about whether it's the Lincoln

conspiracy or the first conspiracy we did about the secret plot to kill George Washington,

or even this one, what we really mean is a group of people getting together to do something

in a pretty nefarious way. And there's 50 pages of footnotes to prove everything we

say. People ask me all the time, what's the difference between a conspiracy theory and

a conspiracy? And of course, what's different is that one actually has evidence at the

other one is just what you think might be true. But you don't know because your brain can't

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