Well, Bill, in writing your systematic philosophical theology, which you're very busy doing, you've

revisited the definition and nature of faith, this article by a skeptic that we're going

to look at, gives us a chance to discuss it and perhaps apply it, and as we begin, tell

us about your lecture at the Evangelical Philosophical Society conference, because there are certain

things that this article mentions that you were talking about in that lecture, does Christian faith

imply belief? And you talk about things like saving faith. My question that I was posing was whether

Christian faith or saving faith implies belief, and I distinguished between what I call personal

faith and propositional faith. Personal faith is trust in a person. Propositional faith is belief

in a proposition, and it seems to me that saving faith implies both personal trust in God and

Christ, but then also propositional faith, belief in certain propositions. For example, Paul says,

if you confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart, that God raised him

from the dead, you will be saved. So here Paul mentions two propositions that should be believed

as conditions of salvation, namely that Jesus is Lord, and that God raised him from the dead.

And so in my paper, I argued that the nature of biblical faith is that it's more than just

personal trust. It is also propositional belief. Richard Miller, who describes himself as a

humanistic critic of contemporary religion and a transdisciplinary research scholar,

exploring the cultural and literary nexus between classical antiquity and the social origins of

earliest Christianity, end of quote there, wrote this article, and we can sum up the first two

paragraphs as his saying that Roman classical mythology was replaced by Christian mythology and

that both were just accepted on blind faith. He says, quote, epistemic knowledge

argumentation and evidentialist ground for any rational propositional case were conspicuously

absent, not merely non-central, in the early Christian apologetic tradition. But why? The only

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