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Indiecast

The National Return, Mac DeMarco Data Dumps, and Smashing Pumpkins Get Shiny

Indiecast

UPROXX

Music, Indie Music, Music Commentary, Indie Rock

4.8602 Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

This week, Indiecast is talking about wily veterans. And that includes Aaron Rodgers, who is the topic of the emergency Sportscast segment at the top of the episode (1:30). Steven has some heavy feelings to work out about his quarterback for the past 15 years, and all Ian can do in response is trash the 2005 film Hustle & Flow. (It makes sense when you hear the episode.)

With that out of the way, the guys get into the business of Indiecast by talking about First Two Pages Of Frankenstein, the new album by The National (14:14). Ian admits that he's lost interest in the band after loving them in the aughts, and this record hasn't really changed his mind. Steven meanwhile is still a believer, and thinks this album improves on the previous National record, I Am Easy To Find, though it's not a complete comeback.

Next the guys turn to One Wayne Gthe new 199-song data dump by Mac DeMarco (28:39). Did they listen to all eight hours? Not yet! Will they ever? Who knows? Steven and Ian try to figure out where Mac is at in his career. Is he quiet quitting a la Frank Ocean?

Finally, they talk about Atum, the new rock opera by Smashing Pumpkins that is so sprawling it is not yet fully released (38:15). Steven and Ian contemplate the story of Shiny, the hero at the center of the album, and whether his tale is a metaphor for cancel culture. More importantly, why does this album sound so bad? Can they reconnect Billy Corgan with Flood?

In Recommendation Corner (53:14), Ian talks up the DJ Avalon Emerson, while Steven stumps for the Nashville garage band Country Westerns.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Indycast is presented by Uprox's Indy Mix tape.

0:12.8

Hello, everyone, and welcome to Indycast.

0:15.2

On this show, we talk about the biggest indie news of the week.

0:17.8

We review albums, and we hash out trends.

0:20.2

In this episode, we discuss new music from the national, Mac DeMarco, and Smashing Pumpkins.

0:25.8

My name is Stephen Hayden, and I'm joined by my friend and co-host.

0:29.0

He was just traded to the Jets for a bunch of draft picks.

0:32.5

Ian Cohen.

0:33.6

Ian, how are you?

0:34.4

I really wish we had kind of centered this joke around like another music podcast.

0:38.6

Like, you know, like they trade me to endless scroll for like, you know, Michael for a few weeks.

0:44.4

It may be like a few Patreon subscriptions or something like that.

0:48.6

Or they're trading me to like the pitchfork podcast for, I don't know, like a best new music,

0:53.8

like a best new reissue for a drive-by

0:55.7

trucker's album or something.

0:57.7

I think I would aim, I would negotiate with the New York Times people.

1:02.3

Oh, Popcast.

1:03.5

With Popcast, I'll trade you for Caramanica and maybe like a couple of their, you know,

1:09.8

young freelancers, you know, up and comers,

1:13.5

bring them over here.

1:15.5

I think that could have been a good trade.

1:18.0

I'm referring in my little joke, of course, to Aaron Rogers, my quarterback for 15 years,

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