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🗓️ 7 October 2025
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The clock is ticking for Chicago and Illinois Governor JB Pritzker.
President Trump has deployed the National Guard to the country’s third largest city, and he says they’ll begin operations no later than Wednesday.
Pritzker, a democrat, and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson are fighting the administration’s efforts in the courts.
Trump says Chicago and other cities need the National Guard on the streets. Illinois governor JB Pritzker says it’s an "invasion." What now?
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| 0:00.0 | The Trump administration has said it wants National Guard troops patrolling the streets in Memphis, Portland, and Chicago. |
| 0:07.5 | The reason, says President Trump and members of his cabinet, a need to address rampant crime and give support to federal agents involved in immigration enforcement. |
| 0:16.9 | It's probably worse than almost any city in the world. |
| 0:22.4 | You can go to Afghanistan. |
| 0:27.6 | You can go to a lot of different places, and they probably marvel at how much crime we have. |
| 0:37.6 | But the governors of Oregon and Illinois and the mayors of Chicago and Portland have filed lawsuits to try and stop the deployment of National Guard troops in their cities and states. |
| 0:44.1 | To put military troops in American cities is a threat to our democracy. |
| 0:49.3 | There is not an insurrection or a rebellion, not only in Portland or Chicago or other places. |
| 0:53.7 | Oregon's governor, Democrat Tina Kotech speaking to all things considered on Monday. |
| 0:55.1 | Look, there are challenges. |
| 0:56.9 | There's lawful demonstrations. |
| 0:59.3 | Local law enforcement is handling the situation. |
| 1:03.8 | And I think this is an overreaction to the situation. |
| 1:05.1 | And it's just not true. |
| 1:07.0 | Fact should matter. |
| 1:12.1 | Now as the war of wills between the states and the executive branch is intensifying, |
| 1:18.4 | President Trump is saying he could try and bypass the courts altogether by using the Insurrection Act. It's an 1807 law that would give him broad latitude to use the National Guard or |
| 1:24.6 | active duty troops for law enforcement on domestic soil. |
| 1:28.4 | We have an insurrection act for a reason. If I had to enact it, I'd do that. If people were |
| 1:33.7 | being killed and courts were holding us up or governors or mayors were holding us up, sure, |
| 1:40.5 | I do that. Consider this. Trump says Chicago and other cities need the National Guard on the streets. |
| 1:47.7 | Illinois Governor, Democrat J.B. Pritzker, says it's an invasion. |
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