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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The N-Word at the BAFTAs, Producing R. Kelly, and Gavin Newsom Backlash: Fair or Unfair?

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.711.5K Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2026

⏱️ 127 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel react to the conversations around racism and ableism following outbursts at the BAFTA Awards, and Teddy Riley walking back support for R. Kelly. Plus, Gavin Newsom gets criticized, (0:00) Intro (9:24) N-word at the BAFTA Awards (34:53) Teddy Riley and R. Kelly (57:31) Gavin Newsom backlash (1:15:55) Huckabee on Israel: “Fine if they took it all” (1:30:55) Trump, Susan Rice, and Netflix (1:36:25) Economic viability for men Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Yo, yo, yo, Thought Warriors, what is up?

0:05.0

Higher Learning is on?

0:10.0

Is Ivan Layton Jr.?

0:11.0

And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.

0:13.0

If you're not watching the podcast,

0:16.0

which we've asked you to do many times,

0:18.0

if you're not watching, then you can't see

0:20.0

that we're in a new studio set up here with a new studio. We're now at Spotify, the different Spotify. It's a new Spotify. The creator space. The creator space is creator space. I think that's what they call it. It's a great space. Now, listen, I was out here looking at the mountain.

0:39.5

The mountains out there.

0:40.2

I saw you on the balcony out there.

0:41.5

See me out there on the balcony looking at the mountain.

0:43.1

This is the type of shit that I'm into.

0:45.4

This is the type of shit.

0:46.2

Shout out to everyone down in Mateo because Mateo, that's my home.

0:49.1

You know, shout out to Mateo.

0:50.5

But this, looking at the mountain, being in this this area we got Beyonce over here we got we

0:57.6

have Parkwood Rock Nation you're Rock Nation we have Sirius X-M you guys we're right next to

1:04.0

rock nation you never know what kind of narratives we'll end up coming out of this podcast you

1:09.2

could walk down the street and see, I don't know,

1:13.2

maybe see Rach with Tata or somebody,

1:16.9

maybe Rach with Desire Perez,

1:18.7

maybe Rach being influenced.

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