The Myth of World Order — with Bret Stephens
Call Me Back - with Dan Senor
Ark Media
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🗓️ 8 January 2026
⏱️ 36 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You are listening to an art media podcast. |
| 0:08.2 | The mood music of the last 10 years has sounded very much like the mood music of the 1930s, |
| 0:14.8 | in which dictators aggressors aggress at will, and democracies are timid and inward-looking. We may very well recall Trump's moves, |
| 0:25.9 | which are now being cast as hyper-aggressive and sort of in line with the new era of great |
| 0:31.0 | power competition and winner-take-all geopolitics, and say that these were essential, necessary, and ultimately peace-producing signals |
| 0:42.2 | to foreign dictatorships, that the United States meant business, that we were not a power |
| 0:48.7 | to be trifled with, that we were capable of executing complex military operations with an astounding degree of success, |
| 0:56.0 | as we just were with Maduro, as we were in Operation Bin Night Hammer, that they should think twice before they next try to invade one of their neighbors. |
| 1:04.0 | And I'm keeping my fingers crossed that that's the version of reality we're looking at in which we are averting great power wars |
| 1:11.9 | rather than hurdling towards them. But we are definitely in an era that is more fraught, |
| 1:18.7 | more dangerous than we were, certainly when I was coming out of college. And the only question was |
| 1:24.3 | who was going to sign the next free trade deal with the United States. |
| 1:45.4 | It's 11.30 a.m. on Wednesday, January 7th in New York City. It is 6.30 p.m. on Wednesday, January 7th in Israel, where Israelis are winding down their day. On Tuesday, tens of |
| 1:52.6 | thousands of ultra-Orthodox Israelis gathered in Israel for an unruly and at times even violent |
| 1:59.1 | protest against the issue of military conscription for the |
| 2:03.7 | Kharedeem, the ultra-Orthodox Israeli Jews. During the protests, a 14-year-old |
| 2:09.3 | Karadi boy was tragically killed when a bus driver accelerated into a crowd that was blocking |
| 2:15.6 | a street. There is a preliminary investigation underway to understand |
| 2:19.6 | what actually happened. In other news, following the U.S. capture of Venezuelan dictator Nicolas |
| 2:26.2 | Maduro, President Trump and other American leaders have made strong threats against the Islamic |
| 2:31.7 | regime of Iran, which the U.S. hit forcefully back in June of last year. |
| 2:37.0 | The regime now faces its 10th day of nationwide protests. And some analysts are wondering whether |
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