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Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

The Myth of Resilience (Soraya Chemaly)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Elise Loehnen

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement, Education

4.8900 Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2024

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

“This is the richness of the traditional wife explosion, right? There's this simple idea that you get to choose. Now you're choosing to emulate a situation that's a fiction in that those women didn't choose anything. They had to dress like that. They had to live like that. They had to be nice to the men like that, because they had no bank accounts. They had no cars. They had no licenses. They had no income. They had no security. So, don't equate these two things because you're just kind of living a dignified version of something that was pretty egregiously harmful, you know. And it's the difference, I think, in knowing that you have an option.” So says Soraya Chemaly, an award-winning writer, journalist and activist whose work has been at the center of mine. Her now-classic, Rage Becomes Her: The Power of Women’s Anger lit me on fire—not only for the deftness of her arguments but also because she is a meticulous researcher. What she gave air to in the pages of that book blew me away. She figures prominently in the endnotes of On Our Best Behavior. Her new book, The Resilience Myth: New Thinking on Grit, Strength, and Growth After Trauma, follows a similar path. Soraya takes something we’ve been served as an ideal—develop resilience—and flips it on its head, both widening and undermining this definition. She challenges our cultural myths about this concept and urges us all to shift and expand our perspective on the trait, moving from prioritizing the role of the individual to overcome and conquer to focusing on what’s really at work, which is collective care and connections with our communities. As she proves in these pages, resilience is always relational.  MORE FROM SORAYA CHEMALY: The Resilience Myth: New Thinking on Grit, Strength, and Growth After Trauma Rage Becomes Her: The Power of Women’s Anger Follow Soraya on Instagram Soraya’s Website To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread.

0:03.5

Today I'm joined by the brilliant Soraya Shamali, author of Rage Becomes Her and the Resilience

0:09.1

myth, which was just released.

0:14.4

You know what that is?

0:17.0

An ice-cold bear.

0:18.9

What's different?

0:22.0

It's butweiser.

0:23.6

Brood longer for a refreshing, smooth taste.

0:29.9

Like no other.

0:32.9

Cheers to that.

0:35.1

Budweiser, like no other.

0:37.4

Please drink responsibly. For the facts, like no other. Please drink responsibly.

0:38.6

For the facts, visit drinkaware.coma.ukr.uk.

0:40.4

Okay. Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread. On this show, we pull apart the web in which we all live

0:58.2

to understand who we are and why we're here. Pulling the thread is about big questions, why we do what we do,

1:05.5

how we can understand our own experiences within a larger spiritual and historical context,

1:12.0

the ways in which we might begin to understand ourselves and each other better, and what's required to heal ourselves

1:16.8

and our world. I'll be joined in conversation by luminaries and wise elders, those who have laid

1:22.4

tracks in their work and lives to help us bring meaning and understanding to a world that

1:27.1

often feels chaotic and

1:28.5

overwhelming. My hope is that these conversations spark moments of resonance and plant tiny

1:33.9

seeds of awareness so that we might all collectively learn and grow.

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