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The Myth of Oxidizing Makeup with Chemist Balanda Atis

Fat Mascara

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Dermatology, Fashion & Beauty, Arts, Beauty News, Makeup, Skincare, Perfume, Fragrance

4.8 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 August 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Jenn’s off to climb a mountain (she’ll explain in the intro), but we still have a great interview for you: Chemist Balanda Atis, whose pioneering research helped make foundation more inclusive for all skin tones. Balanda is currently the assistant vice president of scientific communications for L’Oréal Paris, and in this interview (originally aired in 2019) she shares industry secrets, like why chemists use blue pigment to expand foundation shade ranges, the story behind her patent for fiber mascara, and the reason makeup looks different in the package than it does on your face (it’s NOT oxidation!).  


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0:00.0

Hey, everyone. Welcome to Fat Mascara. I'm Jess. Welcome, welcome. I'm Jen. Here we are.

0:14.0

Jen. Now, today is a replay. So if you're listening to this right now, know that the episode

0:21.2

you're going to hear has been carefully selected. We throw them through the Fat Mascara

0:25.5

archives and we picked it one. We picked it. We picked it in an episode that we thought

0:31.8

would be just perfect to dust off and replay for your ears. But in real time right now, Jen

0:41.8

is hopefully safely just as carefully climbing a mountain. We now that you've said it out loud,

0:49.4

it sounds ridiculous. This is part of the reason we took some time off in August because

0:53.9

Jen decided to climb my mountain. So Jen could do something crazy. Guys, I planned this. I don't

1:00.7

know coming out of the pandemic. I was like, I need a challenge. And I have done mountain

1:05.1

year. Do you think life is challenging enough? Jen, geez. Now that I have seen myself through

1:09.7

the training for this this summer and probably write this moment as I'm carrying my 35 pound pack

1:15.6

up the 10,000 foot mountain that I'm climbing. Oh my god, that's almost like a lake. That's like

1:21.2

lake is just a little bit over 35 pounds. You're carrying a lake up a mountain. Oh yeah,

1:25.4

for like a full day at a time. For those who aren't like frequent listeners, that's my daughter.

1:32.4

I'm trying to inspire future generations like lake. See what you can do if you put your mind to it.

1:37.5

No, seriously, I'm I this is a downfall of mine, but maybe an upside. I need a deadline and a

1:43.6

project and a challenge to like keep the momentum of life moving forward. So I give myself these

1:48.8

ridiculous tasks. So here I am. I signed up, but this one is fun because Eric's coming with me

1:54.4

for the first time. Now I've done mountaineering before. Eric has never Eric has never even been

1:58.9

above 10,000 feet elevation. I have been up to like 20,000 feet elevation. So when was he up on

2:04.3

20,000, 10,000 feet? Like why would he be even up that high? You know what? I realized that as I was

2:09.4

talking about this with him, he was like, in what world would I why would I be at 10,000 feet?

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