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Stuff They Don't Want You To Know

The Mysterious Story of Russia's "Shadow Fleet"

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know

iHeartPodcasts

Society & Culture

4.310.7K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

As Russia and the West escalate their tensions, the world enacts sanctions mean to cripple the Russian economy -- "you can't sell oil," says the West. Ordinarily, a sanctioned country would have no recourse. Yet, as Ben, Dylan, Matt and Noel discover in tonight's episode, Russia took a different route: a secret navy of ragtag vessels sailing under fake papers, moving fossil fuels -- a genuine Ghost Fleet, immune from international law.

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0:00.0

From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies, history is riddled with unexplained events.

0:06.5

You can turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know.

0:12.0

A production of IHeartRadie. Ahoy, welcome back to the show.

0:28.1

My name is Matt.

0:29.0

My name is Noel.

0:30.1

They call me, Ben.

0:31.4

We're joined as always with our super producer, Dylan, the Tennessee pal Fagan.

0:35.8

Most importantly, you are you, you are here. That makes

0:39.8

this the stuff they don't want you to know. Ah, we're returning to the seas. It's the wide world of cargo

0:47.4

shipping. Guys, do you remember several years ago when we learned that you can travel the world

0:53.4

as a passenger on cargo ships?

0:56.5

Yes, and we talked about the varying ways you could end up in that position.

1:01.0

Some legal, some above board, if you will.

1:05.3

Yes, some above deck for sure.

1:07.6

The catch is, even if you're traveling legally, you have to be flexible with your

1:13.0

arrival dates. So you want to leave Los Angeles and you want to get to Hong Kong. You can get

1:22.4

there, you know, as long as you have a three-month window of arrival. These boys are big, these cargo ships, and they don't go that fast.

1:32.5

No, they don't.

1:34.0

And they're pooping pollutants through the sea the entire time.

1:38.4

And they're holding a lot of poop in there, too.

1:40.9

And they're holding a lot.

1:42.0

I think a lot of times they flush it.

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