Ever wonder how dark the world can really get?

Well, we dive into the twisted, the terrifying, and the true stories behind some of the world's

most chilling crimes.

Hi, I'm Ben.

And I'm Nicole.

Together we host Wicked and Grimm, a true crime podcast that unpacks real-life horrors,

one case at a time.

With deep research, dark storytelling, and the occasional drink to take the edge off,

we're here to explore the wicked and reveal the grim. We are Wicked and Grim. Follow and listen

on your favorite podcast platform. Let's talk college football now. With our friend from CBS Sports,

Brian Jones, the former Texas Longhorn, it's brought to us by Moss Heating and Cooling and Bullen and Mullen Injury Law Firm.

Morning, Brian.

Good morning, fellas.

How y'all doing?

We're doing well.

We've got some interesting items to talk about from college football.

What did you think of the matchup of Michigan in Oklahoma this past Saturday?

And in particular, the two quarterbacks, John Mateer is off to a great start at OU

and then the freshman sensation Bryce Underwood, who had some moments in that game, but he also had a pretty

tough night.

Well, I'm a little perturbed at one of my colleagues at CBS Sports by the name of a

brick new Heisel.

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