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Radio Atlantic

The Murder of Jamal Khashoggi

Radio Atlantic

The Atlantic

Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.4 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 October 2018

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

On October 2nd, Washington Post contributing columnist Jamal Khashoggi entered the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, never to be seen again. Details of the journalist’s brutal killing and dismemberment have since emerged, prompting an international crisis for the kingdom and its de-facto ruler, crown prince Mohammed bin Salman. This week, The Atlantic’s Editor in Chief Jeffrey Goldberg sits down with Fred Hiatt, the Washington Post’s editorial page editor and Jamal Khashoggi’s former boss, to discuss the man Khashoggi was and what justice may come after his death. Links - “This is the first step to recalibrating U.S.-Saudi relations” (The Editorial Board, Washington Post, October 22, 2018) - “The U.S. Loved the Saudi Crown Prince. Not Anymore.” (Krishnadev Calamur, October 22, 2018) - “There can be no coverup of this act of pure evil” (The Editorial Board, Washington Post, October 19, 2018) - “Trump Sees Khashoggi’s Disappearance Mostly as a PR Problem” (David A. Graham, October 19, 2018) - “Jamal Khashoggi: What the Arab world needs most is free expression” (Jamal Khashoggi, Washington Post, October 17, 2018) - “Saudi Crown Prince: Iran's Supreme Leader 'Makes Hitler Look Good'” (Jeffrey Goldberg, April 2, 2018) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is Jeff Goldberg, the editor-in-chief of the Atlantic.

0:03.6

The murder of the Saudi journalist Jamal Koshoji has shocked the world.

0:08.2

Even in the Middle East, where viciousness is too often the norm, the Gothic horror of this murder at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul

0:14.2

on October 2nd has left people aghast and wondering if Saudi Arabia should be

0:18.4

considered a rogue state. Keshoji was often a critic of Saudi Arabia's all-powerful crown prince, Muhammad

0:24.3

been Salman, and in his columns for the Washington Post, Keshoji had pointed out the

0:28.5

apocracies and flaws in the crown prince's approach to governance.

0:32.1

This week, in what could be seen as a too obvious in the Crown Prince's approach to governance.

0:32.5

This week, in what could be seen as a too obvious attempt to distance himself

0:36.3

from Keshoji's demise, the Crown Prince called the killing a, quote,

0:40.2

heinous crime and staged a forced handshake with Keshoji's grieving son.

0:44.6

Matt and Alex are away this week, so I sat down for a one-on-one conversation with the

0:49.2

editorial page editor of the Washington Post and Jamal Keshoji's former boss about where things

0:54.6

stand and what comes next. This is Radio Atlantic.

0:59.3

Yo! Fred Hyatt, thank you for being on the podcast.

1:18.0

Thanks for having me.

1:22.0

Fred, you're the editorial page editor of the Washington Post. the a million things going on but there's one big thing for you all and that is the first

1:35.2

the disappearance and then what we now know to be the killing of Jamal Koshoji who was a

1:41.2

opinion columnist on contract I guess with you.

1:45.0

I want to start at the beginning.

1:48.0

We'll move toward a discussion of the geopolitical ramifications of this and they are huge.

1:54.3

But let's start at the beginning. Talk about Jamal and how he came to the post in the first place.

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