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The Mother of Thanksgiving

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NPR

Society & Culture, History, Documentary

4.715K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2024

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The Thanksgiving story most of us hear is about friendship and unity. And that's what Sarah Josepha Hale had on her mind when she sat down to write a letter to President Lincoln in 1863, deep into the Civil War. Hale had already spent years campaigning for a national day of thanksgiving, using her platform as editor of one the country's most widely-read magazines and writing elected officials to argue that Americans urgently needed a national story. But she'd gotten nowhere – until now.

Five days after reading her letter, Lincoln declared Thanksgiving a national holiday. At the time, no one was talking about Pilgrims and Native Americans. But that too would change.

Today on the show: a Thanksgiving story you may not have heard, how it happened, and what it leaves out.

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hearing this right now. And that's it. Thanks for being here and hope you enjoy the show. Our good ancestors were wise, even in their mirth.

1:24.3

We have a standing proof of this in the season they chose for the celebration of our annual festival, the Thanksgiving.

1:33.6

The funeral-faced month of November is thus made to wear a garland of joy.

1:48.0

No. Let me tell you a story. Let me tell you a story of Thanksgiving, the traditional one.

2:06.8

In 1621, when the English colonists, now known as the Pilgrims, were newcomers to this continent.

2:14.0

There was a major feast between the Wampanogs and the English of Plymouth.

2:21.8

That's a very real event.

2:23.5

The event that's now called the First Thanksgiving.

2:27.2

The suggestion is that the two parties got together for this feast out of innate friendship.

2:34.0

It's this odd little frozen in time fantasy moment of folks getting together and eating,

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but you don't really know why.

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This is Elizabeth James Perry.

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I'm a member of the Aquino-Wampanag tribe of Gay Head, Martha's Vineyard, and I'm an artist,

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and I'm an exhibit consultant as well.

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