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The Daily

The (Misunderstood) Story of NATO

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2018

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

On a combative opening day of the NATO summit in Brussels, President Trump called other member countries “delinquent” on military spending and attacked Germany as a “captive” of Russia. We examine where his frustration is coming from. Guest: David E. Sanger, a national security correspondent for The New York Times and the author of “The Perfect Weapon: War, Sabotage, and Fear in the Cyber Age.” For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barbaro. This is The Daily.

0:09.4

Today, in a combative opening day of the NATO summit in Brussels, President Trump went after Germany,

0:17.3

calling it a captive of Russia, and calling other member countries, Delinquent.

0:24.0

Where his frustration is coming from.

0:26.8

It's Thursday, July 12th.

0:34.2

Michael, the story of NATO really starts with three countries, the United States, the Soviet Union,

0:40.4

and Nazi Germany. David Sanger is a national security correspondent for the times.

0:45.4

Now, the US and the Soviets, of course, were allies of convenience against Germany,

0:51.9

but it all came to a very ugly end as soon as victory in Europe was declared in April 1945.

1:03.6

And at that moment, the big concern moved away from a Nazi Germany that could threaten Europe

1:10.1

to a Soviet Union that could do so. So right after the war was over, there was a great fear

1:19.4

that vulnerable countries that had been initially taken over by the Nazis, from Poland,

1:26.0

Denmark, Belgium, could all fall under the influence of a communist Soviet Union.

1:32.1

So over time, the US came around to the idea that the Soviet Union had to be contained.

1:38.4

The gravity of the situation which confronts the world today necessitates my appearance

1:45.6

before a joint session of the Congress. And Harry Truman went to Congress in 1947 and laid that out.

1:53.3

I believe he said that I believe it must be the powers in the United States.

1:58.7

To support free peoples who are resisting attempted subjugation by armed minorities or by

2:05.8

outside pressures. And that was really the beginning of the liberal international order.

2:11.1

The idea that the United States was going to be a guarantor of freedom around the world.

2:22.5

So how did the US actually put that into practice?

2:27.8

Well, almost as soon as Truman uttered those words, a series of crises came up.

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