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🗓️ 7 May 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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It was first thought schools would close for only a few weeks during Covid, but that stretched into a year. Was it too long? Journalist David Zweig joins host Krys Boyd to discuss what we can learn from school closures during the pandemic and to look at the reality that decisions were based on scientific guesswork. His book is “An Abundance of Caution: American Schools, the Virus, and a Story of Bad Decisions.”
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0:38.3 | In the earliest days of COVID's first arrival in the United States, as the virus continued its relentless spread across the globe, most Americans were unsettled and plenty were outright scared. |
1:02.4 | This previously unknown illness was causing an alarming number of hospitalizations and deaths, and before we had a vaccine or reliable treatments like Paxlovid, there were just so many |
1:12.6 | unknowns. It wasn't unreasonable to be concerned then. But five years on from unprecedented lockdowns, |
1:20.0 | it is fair to ask, did we ignore evidence that could have helped us make better decisions? |
1:25.7 | From KERA in Dallas, this is think. I'm Chris Boyd. One of the most |
1:30.7 | consequential policies was the decision to close schools as a means of slowing the spread of the |
1:36.1 | virus. Initially, this was intended to be a temporary measure, up to two weeks to give public health |
1:42.0 | officials a chance to assess how severe and how contagious COVID was. |
1:46.6 | In some parts of the country, though, it would be well over a year before campuses reopened and even then, often under tight constraints. |
1:54.5 | The effect of those shutdowns on children and their families was enormous. |
1:58.2 | Some of the harms still linger. |
2:00.6 | So it's not just fair, but frankly, |
2:02.2 | essential to ask, was it all truly necessary? My guest, journalist David Zweig, explores that |
2:08.3 | question in his new book, which is called An Abundance of Caution, American Schools, the |
2:13.4 | virus, and a story of bad decisions. David, welcome to think. |
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