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The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

The Missing Perspectives in DSM

The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Alternative Health, Mental Health, Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.7524 Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Margaret Chisolm shares the Perspectives model, a way of assessing patients that builds on the DSM takes the famous manual a few steps further.

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Published On: 01/20/2025

Duration: 22 minutes, 23 seconds

Chris Aiken, MD, Margaret Chisolm, MD, and Kellie Newsome, PMHNP have disclosed no relevant financial or other interests in any commercial companies pertaining to this educational activity.

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0:00.0

The DSM is not the only way to assess patients, and today we speak with Margaret Chisholm

0:05.9

about another model, one that developed at the same time as DSM 3, and takes the famous

0:11.5

manual a few steps further.

0:17.5

Welcome to the Carlet Psychiatry Podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003. I'm Chris Sagan, the editor-in-chief of the Carlatte Psychiatry podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003.

0:22.8

I'm Chris Hagan, the editor-in-chief of the Carlat Psychiatry Report.

0:26.6

And I'm Kelly Newsom, a psychiatric MP, and a dedicated reader of every issue.

0:34.7

Psychiatrists used to pride themselves on rich personal histories, the kind that wove together

0:40.0

a complex pattern of development, life events, inner conflicts, and outer symptoms.

0:46.2

But somewhere along the line, we traded all that for a list of DSM diagnoses.

0:51.7

Maybe it was in the 1980s when insurers threatened to withhold coverage if we didn't submit a medicalized list of diagnoses. Maybe it was in the 1980s when insurers threatened to withhold coverage if we didn't

0:56.2

submit a medicalized list of diagnoses, or the 1990s when industry-sponsored talks started

1:02.5

crowding out the rest of the dialogue with their focus on the diagnoses for which their

1:09.3

drugs were approved.

1:16.3

Or maybe it was when we stopped using psychotherapy as our primary treatment.

1:22.6

But even if you're not practicing psychotherapy, your patients demand a little more.

1:26.3

The psychopharmacology revolution has left many empty-handed.

1:29.0

Only one in three recover fully on an antidepressant. Negative symptoms keep people with schizophrenia from leading full lives, even when they

1:34.7

respond to an antipsychotic. And 30 to 60% of people with bipolar disorder continue to suffer

1:41.1

disabling cognitive problems even after their mood symptoms resolve.

1:46.1

Most patients want us to consider all angles of their problem before jumping to medication,

1:50.6

and they deserve a full account, and taking one builds trust.

1:55.0

Today we're going to introduce you to a method of assessment that does just that.

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