Something I mentioned to Maven last night was I got the interesting thing and kind of the fun thing for me doing this podcast is I left the product when I was watching wrestling at, I don't know, I was 14, 15 years old,

outside of watching the WrestleMania's and all that stuff with my buddies that, you know, they'd have a party at their house.

So I didn't watch a lot of wrestling post 15 years old, we'll say.

And going back and looking at his stuff, it was essentially, I didn't know who Maven was

until he put out his channel.

And I went, oh, wow, okay.

So I got to watch Maven and you were together, which I never knew happened until his channel.

Right. The other part is, is I didn't really know a lot about, like, the Ministry of Darkness.

Mm-hmm.

So the funny thing is with Midian was I knew him as the God ones.

I remember the God ones.

You remember the God ones.

I never knew that he was part of

Ministry of Darkness until a couple years ago. And I was like, he's meant, and I knew of the Ministry of

Darkness, but I didn't know details. I didn't know why. So I kind of want to touch on the ministry

a little bit. Like, first of all, as someone, and I truly don't know this, like,

how did the Ministry of Artis happen?

Where did that come from?

So again, it was, I felt like the character needed to evolve.

And I wanted to have the, obviously I wanted the character to be on the show,

but I'm also starting to want to preserve, you know,

when you've been on TV for so long,

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