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The Mind vs Brain: What Your Therapist Won't Tell You About Mental Health Diagnoses | Greg Gifford and Jonny Ardavanis

Dial In with Jonny Ardavanis

Jonny Ardavanis

Religion, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

5 β€’ 663 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 27 May 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

In this eye-opening conversation, biblical counselor Greg Gifford exposes the fundamental lies being told about mental health diagnoses and reveals why Christians need to be more skeptical of secular therapeutic culture.

πŸ” Key Topics Covered:

- Mind vs Brain distinction - why it matters for Christians

- How mental health diagnoses work (symptom-based, not medical evidence)

- The $40 billion psychotropic drug industry

- Biblical alternatives to secular therapy

- When medication might be appropriate vs unnecessary

- How to approach panic attacks, anxiety, and depression biblically

- The sufficiency of Scripture for life's problems

πŸ“– About the Book: "Lies My Therapist Told Me" challenges Christians to examine mental health through a biblical lens rather than accepting secular therapeutic ideology without question.

πŸ’‘ Main Takeaways:

- Most mental health diagnoses lack verifiable medical evidence

- The mind (immaterial) vs brain (material organ) distinction is crucial

- Scripture provides sufficient answers for anxiety, depression, and other struggles

- Christians should seek medical evaluation but remain biblically grounded

🎯 Perfect for: Pastors, biblical counselors, Christians struggling with mental health issues, parents of children being diagnosed with ADHD/anxiety, anyone questioning modern therapeutic culture

Transcript

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0:00.0

Here is the weirdness of the mental health secular therapeutic ideology.

0:05.7

We're now taking meds and there's no verifiable evidence that this is a medical issue.

0:10.1

So you're actually taking meds for the symptoms, not the cause.

0:13.7

Basically, a lot of the ways that people are diagnosed today is, I feel this way,

0:17.0

I feel this way, I feel this way.

0:18.8

Exactly.

0:19.5

With no actual scanning of the brain. Exactly.

0:22.3

And then someone says, okay, well, those symptoms line up with this diagnosis, you must have this.

0:28.8

Christians have to start to just be a little bit more skeptical because oftentimes we enter into a therapist, counselor, psychiatrist office, and we're just like, tell me about myself.

0:40.6

And we leave there thinking about ourselves through a therapeutic lens. And I would say Christians,

0:44.9

like if the mental health enterprise isn't helping us, then at least start to ask it the hard

0:50.6

questions, like does it know what it's treating? Are these really medical issues?

0:55.3

Does the Bible have superior answers or alternatives to what's being said? Like, I would start

1:00.1

with those three clarifications at least.

1:09.2

Greg, thanks again for sitting down. You know, you recently have written a book called Lies

1:13.9

My Therapist Told Me, and I thought this is a great title. And why don't you just tell us what the

1:19.2

book is about in general? You know, we live in a very therapeutic world. Some of that's necessary.

1:24.5

Some of it's been overdone as you speak to. And I think you do it in a really balanced way.

1:28.9

And sometimes that word balance means like the perfect amount of compromise.

1:33.7

But I think you've done that in a way that's fair.

1:36.8

Biblically speaking, that's mindful of the listener and the watcher.

1:40.2

So just tell us what the book is about and then maybe let's get to the heart of the

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