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The Military’s Carbon Footprint Is A Hidden Cost Of Defense

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🗓️ 19 December 2023

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

A recent report estimates that climate reparations of the US and UK militaries would reach $111 billion.

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0:00.0

Did you know that the US Department of Defense is the single largest institutional contributor of greenhouse gas emissions in the world?

0:11.0

And we argue that they have a commensurate responsibility to pay international climate finance,

0:17.0

those countries that are most affected by the climate crisis, but least responsible.

0:25.2

It's Tuesday, December 19th, but, as you know, every day is Science Friday. I'm sci-fri producer, Rasha

0:31.8

oridi. Between the fuel consumed by military bases, planes and ships, plus the process of making and using

0:39.1

weapons and clearing land, militaries around the world account for almost 6% of all greenhouse

0:45.7

gas emissions. A new report calculated how much two prominent militaries the U.S. and the U.Ks

0:52.1

would hypothetically owe if they paid for the damage caused

0:55.7

by their carbon emissions. The total, $111 billion. Here's Irafledo.

1:03.5

Joining me are two authors of the report, Kamra Galey, senior researcher at Commonwealth,

1:08.8

a think tank in London, Dr. Patrick Bigger Research Director at the

1:13.5

Climate and Community Project, a progressive climate policy think tank. He's based in Maryland.

1:19.5

Welcome to Science Friday. Thank you so much, Ira. Thanks for having us. Patrick, you focused on the

1:24.7

U.S. and the U.K. militaries. Why choose those two?

1:28.6

Well, for one thing, we're based in the U.S. and U.K., and so these are policy decisions that we're very

1:35.2

concerned with, and also the roles historically of the U.S. and U.K. in really creating and

1:43.0

securing the global fossil fuel economy that we've been living with

1:46.2

over the past century or so. That's the primary driver of greenhouse gas emissions and associated

1:51.7

changes to the climate. Now, I mentioned that $11 billion figure in climate reparations. How did you

1:59.2

get that number? Give me some of the math there.

2:01.8

Sure.

2:02.3

So it's not a particularly complicated set of math.

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