The military’s biggest challenge? Trump.

Worldly

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.4 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2018

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Jenn sits down with returning guest Alex Ward and special guest Loren DeJonge Schulman, a defense expert at the Center for a New American Security, to talk about why the hell the Pentagon keeps getting caught off guard by big decisions coming from the White House. From Trump canceling military exercises with South Korea to creating a new “space force” to asking the military to prepare to house thousands of immigrant children on US military bases, Secretary of Defense James Mattis seems to be completely out of the loop these days. The gang talks about what that means for Mattis, Trump, and US foreign policy going forward. Jenn imagines Mattis’s inner thoughts, Alex decides that space war is boring, and Loren makes an awesome reference to the Netflix show The Crown. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:34.4	Welcome to Worldly, part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Jen Williams. I'm here
0:45.3	with returning guest Alex Ward, Vox's defense reporter, and I'm also here with
0:49.9	Lauren DeYoung Schulman. Lauren is the Deputy Director of Studies
0:53.6	and a Senior Fellow at the Center for New American Security.
0:56.5	It's a think tank here in Washington.
0:58.4	Lauren, do you want to say a bit more
0:59.5	about your background and expertise?
1:01.1	So I am a complete defense wonk.
1:03.2	I spent about 10 years of my life basically living in the Pentagon and in the White House basement
1:07.7	dealing with defense policy.
1:09.3	So I can both offer food recommendations for the Pentagon and also some really nerdy,
1:14.5	hardcore wonky stuff about how the Pentagon works.
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