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🗓️ 22 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | From the New York Times, I'm Michael Mubaro. This is the Daily. |
| 0:09.2 | The construction of a massive factory in Arizona was supposed to embody the Trump administration's ability to bring manufacturing back to the U.S. |
| 0:20.9 | Instead, as my colleague Peter Goodman found out, |
| 0:24.8 | it's provided companies around the world |
| 0:27.4 | with literally 18,000 reasons to think twice about building in America. |
| 0:40.2 | It's Monday, December 22nd. |
| 0:48.0 | Peter, good of you to come into the studio. |
| 0:52.5 | Delighted. |
| 0:54.0 | I wonder, just to start this conversation, if you can describe this factory that you recently |
| 1:00.9 | visited to us. |
| 1:02.7 | Yeah, sure. |
| 1:04.0 | So it's about 9.20 in the morning on Friday, and I'm just arriving. |
| 1:08.6 | I mean, there's this giant, mostly empty desert valley in the extreme north of Phoenix, |
| 1:16.6 | as far as the eye could see, really, emptiness. |
| 1:19.6 | I'm standing on a gravel road, looking at cactuses and various desert scrub, just flowing out to to the horizons that this is all going to get |
| 1:29.8 | filled up with housing and offices. |
| 1:33.4 | So this factory, I've seen a lot of factories in my day, you sure have. |
| 1:37.2 | Is on a scale that I've never even imagined. |
| 1:43.9 | We're talking about more than a thousand acres. |
| 1:47.6 | The complex itself, I'm looking at a long, low, gray building with a bunch of smoke stacks |
| 1:54.5 | visible on top. |
| 1:55.9 | You can see at least a dozen cranes. |
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