The Messy and Complicated Story of Thomas Jefferson and Slavery
Our American Stories
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🗓️ 7 May 2025
⏱️ 20 minutes
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On this episode of Our American Stories, how could a man who wrote the words "all men are created equal" in the Declaration of Independence go to his grave without freeing his slaves? Cara Rogers Steven, author of Thomas Jefferson and the Fight Against Slavery, tells the messy story of a man who was both a product of his times... and ahead of them. A special goes out to the Bill of Rights Institute for allowing us access to this audio, originally part of their Scholar Talks series on YouTube.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:14.9 | And we return to our American stories. |
| 0:18.9 | Thomas Jefferson was a man of both extraordinary words and astonishing |
| 0:23.0 | contradictions. While he wrote the Declaration of Independence that called all men equal, |
| 0:29.1 | he would go to the grave without freeing his slaves. But what kind of a man would write those |
| 0:34.0 | words in the first place? You'd tell the story of Jefferson's views on slavery and the equality of man is Cara |
| 0:41.2 | Rogers Stevens, a history professor at Ashland University. |
| 0:46.2 | Let's get into the story. |
| 0:49.6 | Now Jefferson inherited enslaved people when he was 14 years old and his dad died. |
| 0:55.4 | Jefferson inherited something like 52 enslaved human beings. |
| 0:59.3 | And two years later, he shows up at this small little provincial college, |
| 1:04.0 | one of the best schools in the South, College of William and Mary, |
| 1:07.2 | and he got there at the perfect moment. |
| 1:12.3 | The college had been founded as a seminary, but there had been a lot of controversies |
| 1:17.7 | between the Anglican establishment and Virginians. |
| 1:21.1 | And at the moment that Jefferson arrived, there was a real shortage of professors. |
| 1:25.8 | But one person had just shown up from Aberdeen, Scotland, |
| 1:29.8 | and Marshall College, a professor named William Small. And William Small had been |
| 1:35.0 | tutored by the founders, the fathers of the Scottish Enlightenment. And he took all of these |
| 1:40.4 | notes on their moral sense philosophies, and then he showed up in Virginia and became |
| 1:45.6 | the primary professor for Jefferson. He taught mathematics, physics, literature, rhetoric, |
| 1:50.9 | astronomy, meteorology. He was the first to introduce scientific experimentation and observation |
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