The Memory Maker | Part II

Scamfluencers

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Society & Culture

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🗓️ 6 March 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Teal Swan’s self-help empire is on the rise, and so is the backlash to some of her most controversial techniques. Teal fights back against her critics, releasing long rebuttals and detailed explainers on YouTube. She even invites a film crew to document her life and hires a private investigator to prove she’s got nothing to hide. But when the findings come out, things will get even more complicated.

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0:00.0	Hey, Prime members. You can listen to Scanplonters, add free on Amazon music. Download the app today.
0:05.8	A heads up to our listeners. Today's episode discusses mental health issues and suicide. Listen with care.
0:12.9	Sachi, you're someone who loves power. That's not deny it. Correct.
0:24.3	If you were a cult leader, what would your non-negotiables be for your followers?
0:29.6	Everybody has to remark loudly and often about how good looking I am.
0:35.5	Okay. I'm not asking for a lot. You could start right now. Why do I need to be a cult leader for
0:40.7	that to happen? You could do it today. Okay. I literally tell you all the time that you're
0:45.3	beautiful. I know that is true. It makes me really uncomfortable.
0:50.2	Well, mine would definitely be that my followers have to make sure I'm always well fed.
0:55.4	Oh, that's a go-and-to. Yeah. Okay. We would have a great cult if you and I ever got
1:00.9	active enough to do that. Yeah. If we took the initiative, well, for someone like Teal Swan,
1:07.3	who some people think is a bit of a cult leader, it seems like her biggest non-negotiable
1:12.5	is complete and unwavering loyalty, which means never having to hear she's wrong ever.
1:18.6	And as you can imagine, that does not go well.
1:26.4	It's January 2014 and Teal Swan is on a beach in Santa Barbara, California.
1:32.4	She's wearing a white dress and staring into the eyes of her new husband, Sardipe Singh Swan.
1:38.7	I actually have a picture of them from this day. Sachi, please describe it to us.
1:43.7	Okay. Sardipe seems like a nice guy. He's got a big, manly jaw. Handsome guy. He's like,
1:49.7	and he is wearing like a casual bridal outfit, I would say, and they're standing outside and they're
1:55.2	kissing. Yeah, they look like a lovely, beautiful couple. They look like a very nice couple that my
2:00.9	father would quietly criticize, yes, correct. Well, Teal met Sardipe just a few weeks earlier when he
2:06.5	was hired as her bodyguard for one of her workshops in London. But this wasn't just a random gig for him.
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