The Meat Merchants Feeding Climate Catastrophe / Spencer Roberts and Jan Dutkiewicz

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🗓️ 29 November 2022

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Chuck Mertz speaks with science writer Spencer Roberts and political economist Jan Dutkiewicz about their New Republic Article, "How the Meat Industry Undermines Effective Climate Policy". https://newrepublic.com/article/168766/meat-industry-lobbying-climate This week in Rotten History and new responses to the Question from Hell! Spencer Roberts is a science writer, ecologist, musician, and engineer from Colorado. His writing focuses on corporate greenwashing and science corruption. It is featured in places like Jacobin, Wired, and Current Affairs. @Unpop_Science Jan Dutkiewicz is a Visiting Fellow at Harvard Law School. He holds a Ph.D. in Political Science and comes to Harvard after Postdoctoral Fellowships at Johns Hopkins University and with the Swiss National Science Foundation. He is a political economist whose research focuses on large-scale conventional meat production and the emergent world of alternative protein. His work examines how business interests, ethical and environmental debates, and consumer behavior both shape and are shaped by the law, policy, and politics, and how this all influences what Americans eat. @jan_dutkiewicz

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0:00.0	That is best to drive and if you will you can have mine and all the best you know I'm there
0:05.9	I will.
0:06.9	You can let go to me.
0:08.9	The one of you will be.
0:10.5	The first one of the people. Make it back. This This is hell.
0:35.0	is hell.
0:40.0	First off, Lindsay, what was the music you were playing before the show started because that was
0:43.9	pretty damn good. That was Buffy St. Marie. No kidding! Yeah, that's our album
0:49.0	illumination. I was like 1969 or something. Yeah 1969. I was just watching a part of a documentary about her this weekend. I didn't recognize her voice that's really great but I love Buffy Saint Marie. That's crazy my brother turned me on to her a long, long time ago. This is not democracy now or ever. This is hell and if this truly was a democracy in the United States or if the world
1:14.1	embraced the democratic notion of nations doing what's in the public's best
1:18.6	interest we might not be in the mess we are with climate change.
1:23.8	Unfortunately, in places like here in the States, big industry's financial interests
1:28.3	have supplanted the pursuit of knowledge when it comes to global warming. In fact it even appears that there's
1:34.5	bipartisan support for protecting industry from having to do anything to protect
1:38.8	us from global heating. Industry is even being given government subsidies to continue contributing to climate change and environmental destruction.
1:46.0	Take the meat producers role in contributing to the global environmental catastrophe that is getting worse every day as our guests today point out.
1:55.8	Due to successful, lobbying methane has been classified under Biden's
2:00.3	Inflation Reduction Act as Renewable Energy Generation, complete with huge tax credits incentivizing expansion of factory dairies.
2:09.4	They also point out how carbon credits are now traded like stocks and speculative markets with both agribusiness and oil backing them as a tool for emissions reduction.
2:19.0	Not that there is any evidence to suggest they actually reduce emissions.
2:24.0	In a few minutes, we will be joined by political economists.
2:27.0	Jan, I've had this right yesterday,
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