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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

The Meaning of Life with Martin Hägglund

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

MS NOW, Chris Hayes

News, Versant Media, Versant, Ms Now, Nbcnews, Why Is This Happening?, The Chris Hayes Podcast, Chris Hayes, Politics, Government, Society & Culture, Msnbc, Withpod

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2019

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Yeah, we’re going there. In one of our mailbag episodes, Chris Hayes joked about doing an hourlong meditation on mortality. Surprisingly, more than a few of you spoke up in favor of the idea, and one of our #WITHpod listeners suggested checking out a book called “This Life: Secular Faith and Spiritual Freedom” by philosopher Martin Hägglund. In his book, Hägglund takes on some of the most fundamental questions we face if, in fact, this one life is all we have. Say there’s no afterlife - what does it then mean to mourn, to love, and to be a human on this planet? What do we owe each other and what do we owe ourselves? So this week, we look at one of the biggest and scariest and, depending how you look at it, most beautiful questions yet: what if this is it? RELATED READING: This Life: Secular Faith and Spiritual Freedom by Martin Hägglund Hey Chicago! Grab the last few standing room only tickets for our November 12th event with Nikole Hannah-Jones and Ibram X. Kendi! Find tickets here.

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0:00.0

In practice, you know, you're always responsive to that question, you know, am I wasting my time?

0:04.4

What am I doing? We shouldn't see that hovering anxiety as something that's like, oh, like,

0:09.6

wish I could just bliss out. That's part of what it means to be a free being that you're actually

0:12.6

fundamentally like, so when the risk of failing like shit, I wasted five years of my life, that's

0:16.8

constitutive freedom. You have to run that risk.

0:22.4

Hello and welcome to Why is this happening with me? Your host, Chris Aes. Well, this one I guess we

0:26.8

can call a special request popular demand episode of the podcast. And the reason it's by popular

0:32.8

demand and by popular demand, I mean, like, maybe a few dozen of you who emailed us and responded,

0:38.5

I forget when it was. I think it was at the year in mail mail bag where I talked a little bit about

0:46.3

I think somewhere between normal and slightly compulsive obsession with my own mortality and joked

0:51.8

about like, that would be a fun podcast. Like, ha ha, that would not be a fun podcast. And a lot of

0:56.5

you're like, no, that would be a fun podcast. And it was in the midst of that, I think that someone

1:02.4

on Twitter just replied and said, oh, you should read this book. And the book is called This Life.

1:07.6

And it's a book by a philosopher at Yale named Martin Haglund. And the book is a meditation on what

1:13.6

the meaning of life is and what the meaning of life is, particularly in a secular tradition in which

1:17.8

there is no afterlife and which this existence is the only one we have. If you're freaking out right

1:22.4

now as I say this and think, this is too heavy and I want to listen, I would urge you to keep going.

1:26.5

And the reason I would urge you to keep going is that I picked up the book with the same thought of,

1:29.4

like, do I want to read a whole book about this, about a meditation on my one life being my only

1:37.7

life and the fact that there will be nothing after it and all the people I love, I won't be around

1:42.3

for and they will have to mourn my death and I will return to permanent non-existence for the rest

1:46.7

of eternity, which even as I say that now, I get like a little panicky, but I actually found the book

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