This is the Busted Open Podcast.

Welcome to the Busted Open Podcast, The Masters Class,

and we're here with our Masters of the Ring,

Tommy Dreamer, and Mark Henry.

And today's Masters Class is going to be a little bit different.

We did an interview with Greg Gagna and Greg Gagna talked about unfortunately how him and his dad with the AWA with pro wrestling USA

over the years and over the decades. For the lack of a better term screwed.

screwed by what the handshake deal where you figure loyalty

and the bond is like glue and it turns out it's not but before we get to that

interview with Greg Gagna I want to talk to you Tommy and you, Mark, about that same thing where sometimes people take loyalty as a weakness.

So Mark, I'll start with you.

When did you get screwed by, quote unquote, the handshake deal?

Dave, it's been a bunch of times, like, when I was very young,

never had any concept of money, I came from poverty. My mother never made more than $12,000 in a year and when I say

PO, we couldn't afford the OR like we was poed and when I came to Austin and people

knew who I was, they used me.

Simple using sometimes,

but for, like, you know, there were people that did, a guy did an endorsement deal

where I would come and I would go in

and speak to these kids and play games on Saturdays.

And he was getting paid and never told me.

Like I was doing this, you know, like a favor to, not a favor, I was doing it because of the

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