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Welcome to busted open podcast the masters class and we have our masters of the ring

school is now in session. We have the innovator of violence, the landlord and a house of hardcore

and art and soul of professional wrestling, Tommy Dreamer. We have WWE Hall Famer, TNA Hall Famer,

and one of the greatest tag team wrestlers of all time bully, right? And then we have WWE Hall Famer,

a world champion and not one, not two, but three different sports and the world's strongest man,

Mark Henry. Gentlemen, how are you today?

Yeah, awesome man. Let's go. Let's do this.

And I'm into this topic. This is this topic I think is this is a topic I can definitely not

talk about, but you three definitely can. And that's the art of putting a match together.

I know there's a lot of things that you have to think about a lot of reaction. There's so much

that goes into it. So Mark, I'll start with you the art and it is truly an art of putting a match

together. It is. You want to know what people strengths and weaknesses are first when you go

into a match. And you want to play the hits. You want to make sure that things that people do well,

that you get some of that shit in, which is a big deal with wrestling. Everybody wants to get

the shit in. So they look good, but what is the story of the match? What are you trying to do?

When I do seminars, it's the how, when and where of wrestling. A lot of the guys already know how.

So, you know, you don't have to teach everybody how at the elite level. But when you do something

and where you put it is really, really important because it'll set up the next things.

And you want that story to be told to where people lose track of the entertainment world. And

they all they can see in the ring is my guy is in peril. The bad guy is, I mean, he is Darth Vader. He

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