This is the Busted Open podcast. You can listen to the full show Monday through Saturday

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Open podcast, the Masters class. Here with our Masters of the Ring, Mark Henry, Tommy

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So make sure you go to podswag.com slash Busted Open. And this is an interesting topic

today, gentlemen, because coming off of what we're seeing with AEW, with AEW all access,

my question to you guys, is are we pulling the curtain too far back? And are we more

interested in what's going on behind the scenes than what's actually going on in the ring?

And I know that's a topic that is very interesting to all three. And Mark, I could see right away

that you have a lot to say. So let's start with you, Mark. Are we pulling the curtain too far back?

Yes, we're pulling the curtain too far back days. Now only are we pulling it. It's our fault.

It's our fault based on money. And Bully and I always come back to the money.

We didn't want to pay taxes on being athletics. So we became sports entertainment.

We pulled the curtain back. We started doing reality TV. Everybody wanted to be a star and

get that extra buck. We did it to ourselves. Now we're in a place where people expect

of all access show. All our friends and family have at least once go, hey, you think I can get

a backstage pass? No. Now, oh, yeah, cool. All right. I'll get clearance. Like we, we

acquiesce to everybody's will. What they want to see behind the scenes. And it's like I said,

it's our fault. You don't see David Copperfield. You don't see David Blaine and people doing all

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