The “Masculine Mystique” Edition

The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism

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News Commentary, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Sexuality, News

4.2 • 903 Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2019

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of The Waves, Hanna, June, and Noreen discuss the new APA guidelines for boys and men—and the crucial distinction that many commentators who disagreed with them missed. Then, a new Gillette ad has gone viral for its invocation of toxic masculinity and #MeToo, provoking strong reactions from feminists and misogynists alike. Should we be wary of “woke” brands, or can marketing campaigns like this one be a sign of genuine progress? Finally, Kirsten Gillibrand and Kamala Harris have officially formed “exploratory committees” for 2020. The hosts debate why both are emphasizing motherhood in their messaging and assess the state of the presidential race as a whole. In Slate Plus: Is it sexist to consider Mary Oliver a “middlebrow” poet? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	The Following podcast contains explicit language.
0:04.0	Welcome to the waves for Thursday, January 24th, the Masculine Mistique Edition.
0:12.0	I'm Hunter Rosen, a host of NPR's Invisabilia, in the New York
0:16.1	Studios, and I say that as if I'm in a studio, I'm actually in my house with a recording mic in case I sound
0:22.0	different guys, just letting you know that but in the
0:24.0	professional New York studios we have June Thomas senior managing producer of Slade Podcast Network.
0:28.5	Hi June, hey Hannah and also Noreen Malone of New York magazine.
0:31.8	Hi Noreen. Hi I'm feeling very professional with that introduction.
0:35.6	Yes, you guys are audio professes.
0:38.4	I am just in my pajamas.
0:40.3	No, I'm actually dressed, but recording myself because I'm an audio professional of a different kind.
0:45.0	Anyway, we only have one announcement today, which is that the Sydney show, The Waves is having a show in Sydney, that is Sydney Australia, on March March 10th is looking for a guest so if any of you
0:56.5	have ideas for who our guests should be so far we've gotten female wiggle as one of the
1:00.7	options send us ideas on Twitter at June Thomas at
1:04.5	Noreen Malone or email us at the waves at slate.com. Tell us who you think would be our
1:09.1	perfect Sydney guest. All right let's wiggle on in to our topics. First, the new APA guidelines which edge
1:16.9	close to defining masculinity is a mental health problem. That's only a slight
1:21.2	exaggeration. Second, the new feminist Gillette ad,
1:24.9	is it a real breakthrough or just more woke branding?
1:29.0	And finally, Kirsten Gillibrand, Camla Harris,
1:31.2	throw their hats into the ring. and we are going to discuss what
1:34.8	lines they're taking and how they are positioning themselves.
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