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🗓️ 13 October 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco show. |
| 0:02.0 | You daily dive into the news. It is Monday and there's a lot to talk about starting with this. We need to talk about Gaza, Israel, and Hamas. Because the ceasefire, it seems to be holding. All 20 living hostages have been released by Hamas and nearly 2,000 Palestinians have been freed from Israeli imprisonment and detention. But then with all that, there's still violence in Gaza and there are a lot of questions about what happens next happens next, it still haven't been answered. |
| 0:23.0 | But to start with the good news, as we talked about, Israel and Hamas, they agreed on a first phase of a ceasefire and hostage release deal on Thursday. And then on Friday, Israeli forces withdrew to a new defensive line inside of Gaza. And that it left them control of 53% of the territory, and also it triggered a 72-hour deadline deadline for the hostage exchange and then we fast forward to this morning and Hamas first released seven hostages at around 8 a.m. local time with them handing them over to Red Cross who then transferred them to the Israeli military and then around 11 a.m. the Red Cross received the final 13 living hostages with this then seeing the first clips of these people reuniting with their families after more than two years in captivity. Right. And then you had similar scenes playing out as Israel released 1,968 Palestinians. Who I will note here have most often been described in mainstream media as prisoners. And I mentioned that because, you know, for many, that label it's in dispute. Right, because among those who were released, there were only 250 who had actually been sentenced to prison terms. Right, most of those people were convicted of murder and terrorism and deadly attacks on Israelis according to Israel's justice ministry. Though also notably, some were convicted in military trials that rights advocates say often lack due process. And then also, right, beyond that, the remaining 1,700 or so Palestinians released, there were among several thousand Palestinians that Israeli troops have taken from Gaza and have held without charge. And in fact, even now, about 1,300 Palestinians from Gaza remain in Israeli custody. And that's according to a recent count by an Israeli human rights group. And in fact, most of the detainees were held under new laws that were passed in Israel at the start of the war that allowed Palestinians to be detained for months as so-called unlawful combatants without judicial review or access to lawyers. And with that, you've had rights groups, the UN, and detainees themselves, all having reported routine torture and abuse in the facilities where Palestinians have been held with at least 75 dying, according to the UN. And so then with that, as far as the ceasefire and the hostage release deal, I mean, there's still a matter of returning the bodies of those who have died. I mean, specifically with that, you have the remains of at least 26 hostages who died in Gaza meant to be handed over in exchange for the remains of deceased Palestinians held by Israel. But also, both Israeli and Hamas officials have said that it would be difficult for Hamas to gather all of the bodies in the three-day window that was stipulated by the ceasefire agreement. Right in that, I mean, it's already sparked anger. |
| 2:18.8 | You have the hostage families for him, for example, accusing Hamas of dragging their feet, saying in a statement, this represents a blatant breach of the agreement by Hamas. You also had the Israeli defense minister writing on acts that Hamas failing to return all of the bodies as a failure to meet its commitments and adding. Any delay or deliberate avoidance will be considered a gross violation of the agreement and will be responded to accordingly. |
| 2:38.3 | But also, despite those concerns, you had Trump hailing today as the historic dawn of a new |
| 2:42.5 | Middle East when he became the first president to address the Israeli parliament since George |
| 2:46.5 | W. Bush in 2008, in typical Trump fashion, you had him seemingly veering off script bashing Joe Biden and Barack Obama while also heaping praise on himself and his administration. Right, and then you also very notably had him urging Israel's president to pardon Netanyahu, who's in the middle of a long-running criminal trial on corruption charges. Then, on the other side you had Netanyahu and other Israeli politicians heaping praise and applause on Trump, although not all of them. |
| 3:08.4 | In fact, at one point, two lawmakers belonging to a joint Palestinian-Israeli political party were escorted out for displaying signs that said, |
| 3:14.0 | Recognize Palestine. And he had one of them writing on social media afterward. To crown Netanyahu through flattery, the likes of which has never been seen, does not absolve him and his government of the crimes against humanity committed in Gaza, nor of the responsibility for the blood of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian victims and thousands of Israeli victims. With him later adding, there are two people here and neither is going anywhere. But then also with the situation, you have Trump leaving for Israel and heading to Egypt for a summit on the ceasefire deal along with other world leaders. And soon we we're gonna have to wait to see if that leads to any questions being answered |
| 3:41.8 | about what happens next. Because, for example, as of right now, it's not totally clear which, if any countries are planning to send troops to join what was called an international stabilization force that Trump said would handle security in post-war Gaza. And then beyond that, there's also the question of whether Hamas will be disarmed and stripped of its power in Gaza and how the territory will be governed after the war. |
| 3:59.3 | Right, because that's a demand from Israel, but we've already seen reports that Hamas has been moving to reassert its control over the territory. |
| 4:04.3 | I mean, you've got the BBC reporting that Hamas has recalled about 7,000 members of its security forces to move into areas recently vacated by Israeli troops. |
| 4:11.3 | And the mobilization order reportedly announced that their aim would be to, quote, cleanse Gaza of outlaws and collaborators with Israel. |
| 4:18.0 | And then, seemingly connected to that, you also had the BBC reporting that at least 27 people were killed over the weekend and clashes between Hamas and armed members of a major clan in Gaza City. |
| 4:26.0 | And you had what was described as a senior source in Gaza's Ministry of Interior telling Al Jazeera that the clashes in Gaza City involved in armed militia affiliated with the Israeli occupation. |
| 4:34.6 | And for some important context there, you had Netanyahu confirming way back in June that Israel had been arming clans in Gaza that he said were opposed to Hamas. |
| 4:41.6 | And he also had international aid workers later alleging that leaders of one of these groups, |
| 4:45.6 | who Israeli and Palestinian analysts claimed had been involved in drugs and weapons smuggling before the war and also did business with the Islamic State, was behind the systemic looting of aid entering the Gaza Strip last fall. And with that, you've had analysts and historians saying that providing weapons, money, and other support to these types of groups is a strategy that Israel has used several times in the past to divide |
| 5:04.2 | Palestinians and undermine their national aspirations. Where with one Columbia University scholars |
| 5:08.2 | saying, it's the oldest colonial strategy in the book, and adding, Israel wants a state of chaos |
| 5:12.5 | because if the Palestinians are unified, then they might have to actually negotiate or deal with |
| 5:16.4 | them. With also a retired security officer who previously served with the Palestinian Authority in |
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