‘The Lowdown’ Is That Show. Plus, ‘Heat 2’ Hype Meter and ‘House of Guinness.’

The Watch

The Ringer

Tv & Film

4.5 • 5.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Chris and Andy talk about the modern-day hype cycles around film releases and why it feels like television drops don’t get that same level of attention in the wake of more ‘Heat 2’ news (5:38). Then, they make the case for why ‘The Lowdown’ is one of the best shows of the year and what they've been asking for from this era of auteur-driven television (27:51). Finally, they talk about Netflix’s ‘House of Guinness,’ from creator Steven Knight, and why, even though Knight is aiming high, the show misses the mark (43:55). Subscribe to the Ringer TV YouTube channel here for full episodes of ‘The Watch’ and so much more! Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producers: Kaya McMullen and Kai Grady Video Producer: Jon Jones Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I need sports to have to clear the room. Stand up and walk now. Hello, and welcome to The Watch. My name is Chris Ryan. I am an editor at the ringer.com, and joining me on the other line from the House of Guinness, it's Andy Greenwald. I'm not, though. I'm one of the, what are they called?
0:20.9	The fennies?
0:21.5	The fiends. The fiends? Yes. No disrespect. You're not a fiend, my guy. Yeah, feigning, yeah. Which are the ones that are like pro-England? Because that's where I am. That's what I am, but that's where I am. Greenwald is in London. I am in Philadelphia.
0:38.8	It's an East Coast America Old World podcast today. Andy, it's great to see you. We're going to talk a little bit about the last couple episodes of the lowdown that we've seen. Episodes three and four. We're going to talk a little bit about House of Guinness. I have some other stuff for you today. It's great to see your face.
0:54.8	How's England treating you? You're muted. Well, I was going to say it's a country and experience of highs and lows. One of the lows being my brand new travel microphone that has a mute button right on the soft spot where I like to touch the microphone. So that's going to be fun. I'm going to be like Stephen Miller when I say my opinions about House of Guinness.
1:13.2	I'm just going to be fun. I'm going to be like Stephen Miller when I say my opinions about House of Guinness.
1:14.4	I'm like, be there?
1:15.7	Wait, when does Stephen Miller ever cut out?
1:18.7	You didn't see this clip?
1:19.8	No.
1:20.6	That's the thing.
1:21.1	I've been awake for hours.
1:22.9	So, you know, they were interviewing him on CNN, and he was like, we declare plenary freedoms, plenary authority to deploy troops.
1:32.3	And then he just stopped talking because he realized he had given the game away.
1:35.3	He was committing an act of treason.
1:37.6	Sure.
1:38.3	Anyway, I was going to say, allegedly.
1:41.9	I can do that now, by the way, because I'm in a different country.
1:44.3	It would be funny if the watch was Stephen Miller's way of getting away from it all.
1:48.7	She was like, God, it's been tough.
1:50.9	I've been invading multiple cities.
1:53.7	Why won't these guys weigh in on English teachers as to?
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