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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

‘The Loneliest Americans’ with Jay Caspian Kang

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

MS NOW, Chris Hayes

Msnbc, The Chris Hayes Podcast, Government, Politics, Chris Hayes, Why Is This Happening?, Withpod, Versant, Ms Now, News, Society & Culture, Versant Media

4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2021

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

The Hart-Celler Immigration Act of 1965 lifted a century of restrictions against Asian immigration to the United States. And while not necessarily appreciated at the time, it inaugurated a sea change in American society, setting the nation on the course towards multicultural democracy. Asian Americans now represent the fastest growing demographic group in the country, and yet the category itself feels insufficient for the sheer scope of experiences, backgrounds and cultures it encompasses. What exactly does it mean to be Asian American at this moment? What does it mean for an America whose central axis of political conflict seems to hover over the color line? New York Times opinion writer Jay Caspian Kang probes these questions in his new book, “The Loneliest Americans.” The podcaster and son of Korean immigrants joins to talk about assimilation amidst a wave anti-Asian violence, increasing wealth gaps, limited representation and the need for more solidarity in pursuit of upward mobility. Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads. You'll also get exclusive bonus content from this and other shows. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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0:00.0

Asians are, you know, they have the largest income gap between the top and the bottom of

0:04.8

any group in America. And I think that most people can probably see this anecdotally, right?

0:09.8

Like they can drive around Scarlet State on New York. You'll see a lot of Asian people there,

0:13.6

right? Like a very wealthy suburb like that. And if you go down to Sunset Park in Brooklyn,

0:18.4

like are those rich people that you're seeing around there? Absolutely not.

0:21.4

Hello and welcome to Wise Is Happening with me, your host Chris Hayes.

0:31.1

This week that I'm recording this, which is in September, late September, I learned the news.

0:36.3

We all learn the news of the death of a philosopher who I really love named Charles Mills. He was

0:42.2

born in England, but the son of Jamaican parents. And he had an incredible career over a huge

0:47.6

variety of philosophy. Probably most famous book was called The Racial Contract, which is sort of

0:52.4

about how race and racial hierarchy is embedded in a lot of the what we think of as kind of like

0:59.4

rational enlightenment thought of the Anglo-Saxon tradition that race wasn't some other thing out there,

1:05.4

but was sort of shot through in the way that the sort of liberalism was born as a philosophical

1:10.7

tradition. And I saw this great clip that was floating around that was just like a three or four

1:14.9

minute clip of him explaining basically the social construction of race in the clip he's describing

1:20.9

the fact that what we mean by race, what we answer when so instance what your race is is an answer

1:26.1

not about human biology. It's not about the human genetic code. It's an answer about society

1:32.2

and it's answer about where you are in a certain social system. And this is you know, a fairly clear

1:37.9

obvious point one that we've returned to time and time again, but it's worth taking a second

1:41.9

think about particularly in the run up to today's conversation when we think about the census and

1:46.2

the racial categories and the census where the racial categories that we see in polling you know in

1:50.9

the in the run up to the California recall or afterwards when you go through polling results,

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