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"The Lights Went Out In Their Eyes" Michael & The Vaccine Dissident | Dr. Andy Wakefield

The Michael Knowles Show

The Michael Knowles Show

News Commentary, News

4.828.7K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2025

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

Is there a link between vaccines and autism—or is it all a conspiracy? In this explosive episode of Michael &, Michael Knowles sits down with one of the most controversial figures in modern medicine: Dr. Andy Wakefield. Wakefield, often labeled the father of the anti-vaccine movement, shares his side of the story, from the scientific claims that got him banned to the questions no one in the medical establishment wants to ask. Together, they explore the politics of Big Pharma, the suppression of dissent, and what happens when science collides with power. - - - Today’s Sponsor: Balance of Nature - Go to https://balanceofnature.com and use promo code KNOWLES for 35% off your first order PLUS get a free bottle of Fiber and Spice.

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0:00.0

I started getting calls from parents saying my child was perfectly normal.

0:10.0

They stopped sleeping at night, they were screaming, they were in pain.

0:14.0

The lights went out in their eyes. It was a very common description.

0:17.0

Doctors say, this is just part of autism get over it put your child in a home

0:22.3

have another child and forget about it what were they thinking this is their quote

0:27.2

we are not going to be left with an orphan drug and so it was decided to avoid that they

0:34.7

would put it into one-day-old inputs. Do vaccines cause autism?

0:45.3

When I was a boy, it was the left that was skeptical of vaccines, thought that there might be a link between vaccines and

0:54.7

autism. It was the left-wing shows that promoted this idea. Now, politics has flipped upside

1:01.0

down. It's people on the right who suspect that vaccines might cause autism or other adverse

1:06.1

health effects. It's the people on the left who are defending Big Pharma. You've now got Bobby Kennedy, who was a Democrat.

1:12.6

He's a Kennedy, for goodness sakes.

1:13.6

He's now the Secretary of Health and Human Services for Donald Trump,

1:16.6

who previously had been kind of a Democrat.

1:18.6

Now he's the Republican president.

1:20.6

And here I am still totally ignorant of vaccines.

1:23.6

So I figured I'd call in a man who is at the center of this controversy,

1:28.5

and that is Dr. Andy Wakefield. Dr. Wakefield, thank you for coming on the show.

1:33.3

Nice to be here. Thank you very much. For the people who don't know who you are,

1:37.6

you published the study in the 1990s that suggested adverse health effects from the MMR vaccine.

1:47.6

And you have also been the chief target of everyone who wants to defend all vaccines, really,

1:54.7

and especially the MMR vaccine.

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