You're about to listen to a BBC podcast, but this is about something else you might enjoy.

My name's Katie Lecky and I'm an assistant commissioner for on demand music on BBC Sounds.

The BBC has an incredible musical heritage and culture and as a music lover, I love being part of that.

With music on sounds, we offer collections and mixes for everything, from workouts to

helping you nod off, boogie in your kitchen, or even just a moment of calm. And they're all

put together by people who know their stuff. So if you want some expertly curated music in your life,

check out BBC Sounds. Hello and thank you for joining me here at London's Royal Institution

for a special edition of the Life Scientific,

one that'll take us on a journey in space and time,

through black holes and wormholes to giant experimental labs and Hollywood studios.

My guest is Kip Thorne, Emeritus Professor of Theoretical Physics at Caltech,

the California Institute of Technology, and someone who's had a huge impact on our understanding

of Einstein's theory of gravity. An early fascination with the subject led Kip to break new ground in

the study of black holes, and his work as part of the team that recorded gravitational waves for the very first time,

the product of a collision between two massive black holes, more than a billion light years away,

earned him a share in the 2017 Nobel Prize for Physics. As if that wasn't enough, he subsequently took astrophysics to the movies,

developing the original idea

behind Christopher Nolan's time travel epic interstellar, and since then, acting as the scientific

advisor on various big screen projects, most recently the spectacular and highly acclaimed Oppenheimer.

There can't be many physicists who've had a hand in a Nobel Prize and an Oscar,

but Kip seems to have found a way to span those seemingly disparate universes.

Perhaps there's a wormhole involved.

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