Welcome back to evolution of a show girl.

I'm Zach.

And I'm Madeline. And this is our raw, unfiltered reaction

to the craziest thing I've ever seen, which is Taylor Swift's New Heights interview. Wow.

Now that was something else. You know, I thought she was going to be on there for 20, 25 minutes. That's what I genuinely thought. I'm used to something a little bit different. I'm used to something a little bit different. I'm not used to being spoken to. I'm not used to being talked to by the girl. As soon as she started talking, I was gagged. But before that, you need to be gagged by going to Patreon.com slash Riftologist. You don't understand how much fun it is to be behind the paywall when a Taylor release is happening. Our discord is popping off. We are posting, oh, it's emergency hours. When it's emergency videos, you get to see them on Patreon first. The Lizard Review, Madeline, anything coming up soon that we need to be. Oh, everything

coming up for? Oh, everything coming up. I'm actually doing a Clara Bo lyric analysis for Friday that's

going to be like talking about life of a showgirl. You see how that works? You see how that works. So look out

for that. Evolution of a Snake Conglomerate is always, always cooking. We also have five tickets left to our Dublin show. So EvolutionofSnake.com to get tickets. Once those go, these are the last tickets we got. We're done. I can't wait to talk about this on tour. But let's talk about it now before we go on tour. Where do we start? I mean, I guess we can start with the format of the podcast.

Like, it was so strange, but also it felt so normal to hear from her again.

Like, it was really nice to just hear her talking and realize that she's a loser, like the rest of us.

Oh, yeah, big time.

Big time.

There were definitely, when she was doing her bread puns, I was like, I feel like I haven't seen her doing this kind of stuff, like to this extent since like 1989.

But it was like, there she is.

She loves a dad joke.

She loves that kind of stuff.

So it's like, it's like cringe, but because it was like cringe, but because it's, it's Taylor, it's like, oh, pokey. Well, all right then. Not Travis not knowing the words to read. That shocked me. Fake fan. Fake fan. She literally clocked him. She was like, you don't know the words. It's okay. It wasn't on the tour. And he gagged. He took his clock. He took his clock and was like, okay. No wonder his favorite song is Blank Space. And now this is where we stop listening to his opinions on songs. Come on, girls. He doesn't know the title track of Red. That one ain't that's, I wouldn't even classify that as a deep cut. Although when she was listening off the titles of the songs, it was interesting and lucky for you, she said them out loud. So there's no chance to get in a footnote or fresh out of the summer. She read them out loud, which is like she, I mean, she did it on Midnight's Mayhem with me, but that wasn't the same as just her sitting there and reading them off. And I was

trying to read her and I was trying to read him the whole time. Like, what's each song going to be like? Honestly, all anybody kept saying, they're bangers. It's going to be bangers. Bangers. Canceled is a banger. I was like, front to back. Front to back. I mean, we'll get into the album, but there was a lot more Tavis Tee than I thought

there was going to be. And it did at times, it both read to me as two things. It read to me as

girly sitting down and talking, Taylor Swift talking with her boyfriend and her boyfriend's brother,

gag, but it also did read very much like, we're just like you. We are normal couple. We do normal things.

We are not Tavis. When in actuality, we know that they are. But I thought that Taylor had some,

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