Welcome back to Mystery and Murder, where we dissect the psychology behind some of the most

gripping and infamous cases.

My idea when I say dissect is, I want to take you on a journey to explore the minds of both

victims and perpetrators. I want to really unravel the forces that drive the perpetrators

and experience what perhaps the victims were going through. I want to look for deeper truths

about stories than what you get in the media. I want to really look at the human experience

and give some insight where you can walk in the shoes, as painful as it may be, and disturbing as it

may be, to look through the eyes of the perpetrators, I think it's really helpful to understand

what these people say to themselves that makes what they do okay in the moment.

And people don't think about that sometimes because at some point they have to give themselves permission

to do what they do.

Because as I pointed out,

there is a difference between the irresistible impulse

and the impulse not resisted.

And I think in most of these cases, it's an impulse just not resisted.

So they have to at some point give themselves permission to do what they do.

Breaking that down and understanding what do they say to themselves can be both interesting and informative,

and to look at it from the victim standpoint of what they experience can help you

maybe see red flags earlier in your own experiences. We're talking about the Gabby Petito case, of course, and one of the things that I'm trying to

draw attention to is that this was an abusive relationship way before anybody labeled it as an

abusive relationship.

That's not because nobody cared.

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