The lengths Lewis Pugh goes to save the oceans

Zero: The Climate Race

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🗓️ 17 November 2022

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Lewis Pugh has swum across seas and in between melting sea ice, but the hardest part of his work is what comes after – contributing to negotiations to protect those same bodies from development. And he’s been successful: In 2016 he got the Russians to sign a pact to create a marine protected area in the Ross Sea – one of the few healthy seas left, and the size of Britain, France, Germany, Italy put together. A negotiation should be an exploration, not a battle, he tells Akshat Rathi. Pugh also talks about how he got his start, the swim that made him into an environmental advocate and what he wants to come out of COP27. Akshat speaks with Salma El Wardany, a Bloomberg News energy and commodities reporter based in Cairo, and Zero producer Oscar Boyd, about their experiences of COP27.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Zero. I'm Akshadrati from Sharmaul Sheikh Egypt. As a It is a
0:31.6	It is a
0:33.6	This pattern of destructive behavior
0:38.3	As COP 27 comes to a close, there's a subject that did not make a lot of waves, the ocean.
0:45.3	The conference has been held at a seaside resort, but the health of the oceans and their role as a carbon sink haven't received the attention they deserve.
1:00.6	Ahead of the conference, I spoke with the endurance swimmer, Lewis Pugh, who is the UN's patron of the oceans.
1:05.1	He has completed a long-distance swim in each of the world's oceans.
1:13.1	He swum between icebergs in the North Pole, in minus 1.7 degrees Celsius water in the Antarctic, and just last month completed a swim across the Red Sea, past Charmel Sheikh, where COP is being held to raise
1:19.0	awareness about the health of coral reefs.
1:21.7	We'll hear from Lewis later in the show.
1:24.0	But first, I spoke with Bloomberg's Salma El Verd Vardani, an Energy and Commodities reporter based
1:28.8	in Cairo and Zero's producer, Oscar Boyd.
1:32.7	Salma, Oscar, welcome to the show.
1:34.4	Thanks.
1:35.4	Thank you, Acha.
1:36.1	Now, this is the first cop for both of you.
1:38.8	What was the cop experience like for you, Salma?
1:41.5	It was overwhelming.
1:43.0	It was busy all the time. It was a lot of things
1:46.5	happening at different places and there's nowhere centered where you can find everything
1:52.5	or you can find a schedule for everything. It's all over the place and it's very, very exhausting.
1:58.1	And it's not the first time you're covering big meetings. You cover OPEC meetings
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