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The Legacy Of Primatologist Frans de Waal

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🗓️ 28 March 2024

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

In a conversation from 2019, Dr. Frans de Waal tells the story of a female chimp who didn’t produce enough milk to feed her young. The prominent primatologist, who died this month, helped humans understand the emotional lives of our closest living animal relatives.

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What does it mean to be intelligent or to have emotions?

0:06.5

I think some animals are maybe not the most intelligent animals but they are very emotional.

0:11.0

But I think all animals, all the mammals for sure, and also all the birds, they have quite an

0:17.2

emotionality.

0:18.2

It's Thursday, March 28th, and this is Science Friday. I'm Scifry producer Charles Burgquist.

0:28.0

Primatologist Franz Duval

0:30.0

was a frequent guest on Science Friday over the years,

0:32.0

talking about the behavior and inner life of animal. was a frequent guest on Science Friday over the years,

0:32.6

talking about the behavior and inner life of animals,

0:35.8

particularly chimpanzees.

0:37.8

Dr. Duval died recently at the age of 75.

0:41.0

Here's Ira Fl Plato to remember him.

0:43.7

It wasn't that long ago that scientists didn't think animals could rival humans in terms of

0:49.0

intelligence, emotions, or empathy.

0:51.4

But the groundbreaking work of Franz de Vval helped to change all of that.

0:55.7

Duval spent his lifetime studying the lives of animals, especially our closest cousins,

1:00.9

the chimpanzees. The primatologist died last week at the age of 75, and we wanted to remember

1:07.2

him by sharing one of our favorite conversations with him on the show. It's from 2019 when he published his book Mama's Last Hug, Animal

1:16.8

Emotions and what they tell us about ourselves. In it he tells the story of a female

1:22.4

chimp who didn't produce enough milk to feed her young.

1:26.0

When Duval taught her to feed her baby with a bottle instead, she repaid him with what most of us would recognize as gratitude,

1:34.8

holding both of his hands and whimpering sadly if he tried to leave.

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