Hello, I came of God, Christ.

The Lord of Christ, Hello, everybody. Welcome to another brand new episode of the Learning Curve podcast.

Hope you doing well. This is Albert Chang, joined by my co-host, Alicia Sersi.

Alicia, how's it going?

Going great. Albert, it's election season, so things are very busy, but I'm excited about

the future of our state and country. How about that?

Wow. We need that optimism these days, huh?

We do. I don't always feel that way, but I do.

All right. Great. Well, I want to come back to that because I know you've got an interesting news story. I'm tied to civic education and civic formation. But what do we have on tap today? Well, I'm excited for this episode. We've got Andrew Hadfield, who is a professor emeritus of English from the University at Sussex, UK. And this is a topic I've been keen on getting into Edmund Spencer,

poets, English poet from the 1500s, well known for his epic, The Fairy Queen. So I've never read it,

heard lots about it, and really want to dig into this. I'm looking forward to this episode.

Excellent. Well, it's going to be exciting. Well, let's circle back.

You found an interesting news article about civic education.

So let's talk about news as we always do on the show.

Yes.

And so this one is why a lack of civic education is making U.S. politics a toxic by Joshua Dunn and

William Lyons.

And I will just say that it really just prompted for me thoughts about, you know,

where we are as a country and just the importance of knowing and having civics education.

I think we could agree that there's been a tremendous focus and there should be on math and reading. We need that. Not as much

on social studies and science. That's a challenge. And specifically when it comes to civics education.

And I think that's been a movement for a long time. I will not place that on one administration.

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