Well, hello again, everybody.

Welcome to another brand new episode of the Learning Curve podcast.

I'm one of your co-host this week, Albert Chang.

And joining me this week is Justice Barry Anderson.

Justice Anderson, good to have you back. How's retirement?

Retirement is just fine. And of course, the highlight of my retirement is talking to our audience

about the Jeffersonians and those early presidents. So I'm all in on this great and important

and very interesting task. That's right. We're going to have Professor Kevin Goodsman come,

and he's going to talk to us about his book, The Jeffersonians. And in case you haven't heard of

that term, it refers to presidents Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe. So looking forward to this

episode as you are, Justice Anderson. And so, you know, glad you're keeping up. You're being a student

of history in your retirement, but I'm sure you're keeping up. You're being a student of history in your

retirement, but I'm sure you're also keeping tabs with what's going on in education news, right?

I am indeed. And I have a news item that I want to bring to the attention to everyone that actually

connects with our topic today, which is actually the announcement from the Center for Civic

Education out of California of the winners of the 2026 national finals of the We the People competition on the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

We're going to hold the suspense here for a minute before I announce who the winners are.

Fight out yourself by looking, I guess.

But just to say a word about the program, because I have deep connections

with it, it is a wonderful opportunity to connect high school students to constitutional history,

and our history as a nation. And of course, this year in particular, given the 250th anniversary

of the Declaration of Independence, it's particularly significant. And this year's

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